Subject: Re: First Moonwalk? A Russian Perspective
From: Astronaut
Date: 31/01/2004, 03:23
Newsgroups: sci.space.history,alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.area51,soc.culture.history,alt.sci.planetary

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Rudolph_X <nospam@please.net> wrote:  
Would you believe it? According to the Russians, Neil Armstrong was not  
the first man to walk on the moon. Indeed, they claim that it was  
Michael Jackson who truly was the first American to do a moonwalk.
Here's an article from Pravda that gives a Russian perspective.
->http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/98/387/11928_space.html   
"One cosmonaut who was sent in far outer space reportedly experienced  
the Van Allen Belts harmful effects firsthand.  According to various 
sources, while he left white, he came back black; he was cooked to a     
crisp due to the harmful radiation.  This was despite heavy shielding to 
dissipate any rays, which did no good. Those who knew about this 
incident were reportedly devastated."

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Excellent Article!! The fact is about 1 in 6 Americans     
are smart enough to realize when they've been had. But
con artists still flourish in America (to wit Enron et 
al) because 5 of every 6 Americans are easily duped by
unscrupulous swindlers--like the "men to moon" hoaxers
who defrauded America & the world back in 1969 to 1972.
This is an excellent article...I've quoted it verbatim:   

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"Russia Continues to Surpass Americans in the
 Space Race 01/30/2004 16:55    
 Cosmonauts May Soon Add Another One to the Russian
 Space List of Firsts
  
 On July 25, 1969, many Americans watched their
 televisions in awe as astronaut Neil Armstrong
 walked on the moon and said, "One small step for    
 man, one giant leap for mankind." Americans were
 amazed at what advances in technology had
 produced: a man on the moon. Ticker tape parades
 greeted returning astronauts. America had proven
 itself a leader in the space race.
 Lately, some have begun to suggest that this was
 not the case at all; some people have suggested 
 that America never made it to the moon and that it
 was
 just an illusion made with trick photography. Bart
 Sibrel is one of those people. He made a video
 called, "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the 
 Moon," in which he provides much documentation to
 suggest that man has yet to walk on the moon. Is
 this possible? Could have America faked the entire
 moon landing?
 On first thought, it might sound ludicrous for 
 many--to think that man has not walked on the
 moon. After all, it would require such a grand
 conspiracy that, certainly, someone who was privy
 to such information would have spoken.
 Nevertheless, there are those who are skeptical of
 this moon-walking. 
 Surprisingly, some of the ideas presented by them
 are not as preposterous as they might sound. Based
 on surveys, it has been estimated that between 6
 and 20 percent of Americans do not believe a man
 actually walked on the moon. Are 6-20 percent of
 Americans fools, or are they a little brighter
 than the rest? 
 In order to fully understand the claim that man
 did not walk on the moon, the events leading up to
 this event that most Americans consider an
 historic fact must be re-examined and scrutinized.  
 We must go back in time, when the space race
 between Russia (or the Soviet Union, as it was
 known then) first started. By doing this, I feel
 that you will better understand the arguments both
 for and against the claim of man walking on the 
 moon.
 What I present here may shock many fellow
 Americans, as we generally view our nation and its
 space exploration program as being, by far,
 superior to that of all other nations. After all,
 we were the first nation to have "a man walk on
 the moon" (or so we believe). While this might
 possibly be true that America was the first nation
 to have a man walk on the moon (though there is
 evidence to suggest otherwise). As difficult as it 
 may be for many to admit, this appears to be the
 only "first" America had in the great space race.
 If we are to be honest, during the "space race"
 from the late-1950s until the time American
 astronauts were to have walked on the moon, Russia
 was utterly devastating America. This was probably
 both due to the fact that Russians were highly
 educated and the fact that, with Russia's strict
 Communist leadership at the time, failure was not
 an option. And Russia's society encouraged  
 intelligence, whereas America's society has
 beenencouraging a host of things--such as artying
 and irresponsibility--none of which promoted
 intelligence.
 In 1957, America was astonished, as was the rest
 of the world, when it was discovered that a
 Russian satellite, Sputnik, had gone into outer
 space. People were absolutely amazed that such a
 device made it into outer space. Not only was the
 scientific community of America in awe, but so too
 was the American military, who were greatly 
 concerned about Russia having the ability to put
 such a device in outer space.
 Later that year, Russia again made a first, when a
 small dog, Laika (which means "barker"), was
 launched into outer space. This again sent
 shockwaves throughout the world. Americans heard 
 about this and were astonished that a dog went
 into outer space. This dog was actually put into
 orbit, and unfortunately died 6 hours later while
 in space, not being able to withstand the rigors
 involved.
 Meanwhile, in 1957, while America stood shocked at
 Russia's progress, America attempted to launch its
 own satellite into outer space. This was meant to
 show the Russians that America too was a contender
 in the space race. A satellite was to accompany 
 the rocket, which had been tested for stress. 
 America felt everything was prepared. But the
 rocket blew up at the launch pad, never leaving
 the ground. It was an international embarrassment.
 In 1959, trying to copy what Russia had done two 
 years prior, America was finally getting an animal
 into outer space. A couple of monkeys went up only 
 300 miles for just 15 minutes total. This, of
 course, was a far cry from the orbit in which the
 Russian dog was put two years previous. However,
 the monkeys did return alive.
 While America was sending rockets up for 15
 minutes in 1959, Russia was again making
 shockwaves when its satellite Luna-1 flew by the  
 moon. Later in 1959, the Russian satellite Luna-2 
 reached the moon's surface and left national
 symbols of the then-USSR. Again in 1959, the
 satellite Luna-3 made another first for Russia,
 when it took pictures of the far side of the moon, 
 transmitting these pictures back to Russia.
 Russia also had the first space probe to circle  
 the earth.
 A couple years later in 1961, Russia then became
 the first country to have a man orbit the earth,
 Yuri Gagarin, who road aboard the space craft
 Vostok. This again astonished the international
 community, who were surprised that such a feat  
 never tried before could be accomplished. While
 the Russians were orbiting the earth, the American
 Alan Shepard was launched just 115 miles into  
 space, not even going close to the distance
 Russia's dog had traveled two years prior; and he
 landed in the Atlantic Ocean 15 minutes later.
 Meanwhile, Russia again had nother first in 1961,
 when its interplanetary probe Venera-1 was
 launched to Venus.
 In 1962, America became the second country to have
 a man of its own in orbit around the earth, John
 Glenn. Parades greeted John Glenn when he
 returned. Due to his notoriety, he later became a
 U.S. Senator because Americans care more for
 celebrity status than fit politicians.
 President John F. Kennedy at this time said
 America would have a man on the Moon by the end of
 the decade. He was later assassinated in 1964,
 leaving his dream of having a man on the moon to
 be fulfilled by others.
 In 1962, Russia was the first nation to have two 
 rockets with cosmonauts in outer space at the same
 time. It was known as the first "formation flying"
 in space when the two manned spacecraft, Vostok-3
 and Vostok-4, traveled near each other in unison.
 In 1963 Russian cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova
 became the first woman in space. She was aboard
 the Vostok-6. Not only was this significant by the
 fact that she was a woman, but she was also just a
 regular person, who had worked at a textile
 factory. So she was also the first public citizen
 in space, not being the typical cosmonaut.
 In 1964, trying to duplicate what Russia had done 
 back in 1959, America launched the Ranger VII,
 which took pictures of the moon and then
 crash-landed into it. Nevertheless, it did send
 some interesting images of the moon, close-up
 images that attracted a great deal of curiosity to
 Americans, who might have only been able to have
 seen such images if Russia had shared theirs.  
 In 1964, Russia became the first nation to have
 launched two satellites, Elektron-1 and
 Electron-2, while just using one rocket.
 In 1965, tragedy struck when the American rocket
 Atlas blew up on the launch pad, causing
 incredible damage. This terrible event sent a
 chill up many potential astronauts' backs. It
 re-emphasized the importance of safety
 precautions. Some feel that this accident was not
 quite that--that it may have very well have ended 
 that way due to some astronauts not wanting to go
 along with a plan; in short, some feel they were
 assassinated by their very own government. It is
 not known what evidence such thoughts are based 
 on, however, if any.
 Russia too had a disaster related to safety at a
 different time, in which many engineers died. This
 had occurred several years prior. Nevertheless,
 over the years, Russia has shown itself to be 
 much, much safer in its space flights and landings
 than America.
 In the year that America's rocket was smoldering
 on the launch pad, on March 
 18, 1965, Cosmonaut Alexei Leonov took the first
 space walk, a ten-minute 
 tethered excursion outside Voshkod 2. On June 3,
 1965, Edward White II is the first American to
 walk in space on Gemini 4, though not as far out
 in space. He stayed out for 22 minutes.
 In 1966, Neil Armstrong and other astronauts went 
 in space aboard the Gemini VIII and Agina. They
 met amid outer space and docked. Later, a
 malfunction with Armstrong's rocket caused him to
 return to earth prematurely, but fortunately no 
 one was injured.
 Meanwhile in 1966, Russia became the first nation
 to have an unmanned space probe, the Lunar IX, to
 actually land softly on the moon. It transmitted
 pictures from its surface back to earth. Also in
 1966, the Venera-3 became the first spacecraft to
 reach the surface of Venus. National symbols of
 the USSR were left there. In 1966, Russia had the
 first satellite put in orbit around the moon, the  
 Lunar X space probe.
 In 1967, Russia had the first two unmanned
 spacecrafts that automatically met in space then
 docked and undocked.
 Also in 1967, tragedy struck three American
 astronauts who died while sitting inside a rocket.
 Their capsule burst into flames. The reason why it
 caught fire is largely unknown; it is thought to
 have started as the result of a spark of unknown
 origin that was somehow able to ignite the
 extremely well-insulated fuel tanks. Again, some
 feel that there may be more to this incident than
 we currently know.
 In 1968, Russia's unmanned rocket Zond-5 became
 the first to travel around the moon and return
 back to earth unscathed. Russia was the first to
 have a manned spacecraft orbit the earth, Vostok,
 several years prior. Russia had already showed the
 world that it was the first to have an unmanned 
 spacecraft, the Lunar IX, softly land on the moon,
 and now it showed the world that it could even
 have an unmanned spacecraft circle the moon and
 return, with Zond-5.
 Why didn't Russia then send up a man on one of its
 spacecrafts to the moon?
 It would have seemed simple enough. I'll get to
 this later.
 1969 - Again, Russia had another first: The first
 docking of manned spacecraft (Soyuz-4 and 
 Soyuz-5), and crew transfer from one spacecraft to
 the other through open space.
 1969 - Still another first for Russia occurred:
 The first formation flying of three manned
 spacecraft, Soyuz-6, Souyz-7 and Soyuz-8, during
 which they maneuvered relatively close to each
 other, with ground facilities providing
 simultaneous support for the three spacecraft.    
 Meanwhile, in America, the end of the decade was
 approaching. The late-President John F. Kennedy's
 dream was becoming just that: a dream. Violence
 gripped America, with the war in Viet Nam and
 racial riots across America's cities. America's
 leaders were desperately looking for 
 "heroes"--some people to keep the public's minds
 off of the problems at home. America was looking
 for something to distract Americans from the
 failing policies. America's leaders wanted to show
 the world that its insane policies were a match to
 the highly educated Russians and their orderly
 society. While America's wars at home and abroad
 were causing much turmoil, America desperately
 needed some "pride"--anything for which to be
 proud.
 Russians had wanted to go to the moon. However,
 there were many concerns    
 with safety. The Van Allen Belts released a deadly
 radiation that could easily fry a person to death.
 Plus, the moon is 250,000 miles away--quite a
 distance. While I'm not familiar with how fast the
 rockets were, traveling at 1,200 miles per hour,
 it would be approximately a 20-day journey each
 way, provided there were no problems. Even at 2-3
 times that speed, it would still be a difficult
 journey. The amount of fuel required would be 
 staggering, with the added weight of people, food,
 air, supplies, etc. Yet somehow, these rockets
 managed to go much, much faster in a zero
 atmosphere with nothing with which to propel?
 Perhaps, the speed is possible, yet one cannot
 deny the deadly radiation rays out in space known    
 as the Van Allen Belts.
 One cosmonaut who was sent in far outer space
 reportedly experienced the Van
 Allen Belts harmful effects firsthand. According 
 to various sources, while he left white, he came
 back black; he was cooked to a crisp due to the
 harmful radiation. This was despite heavy
 shielding to dissipate any rays, which did no 
 good. Those who knew about this incident were
 reportedly devastated.
 Then, suddenly, out of nowhere, as Americans and
 the rest of the world stood
 in front of their televisions, two astronauts
 stepped on the moon in 1969. Up until then,
 America was putting people about 400 miles away in
 orbit--far away from the harmful Van Allen Belts.
 But suddenly Americans made it into outer
 space--landing and walking on the moon--250,000
 miles away, no less?
 In 1965, the U.S. made a fake moon landscape,
 which was used for testing a space vehicle. Some
 have suggested the scenery for the moon landing
 was faked. Could this have been it?
 Russia seemed to continue to have "firsts"--except
 for the moon landing. On 
 April 19, 1971, they had the first Space Station.
 The Soviets launch Salyut 1, the first orbiting
 space station. Salyut 1's original crew reportedly 
 died during re-entry on June 30, 1971. Georgi
 Bobroeolski, Vladislav Volkov, and Victor Patsayev
 had spent a new record of 23 days in outer space.
 It wasn't for two more years that the first
 American Space Station--May 14, 1973--was
 developed. The first American space station,
 Skylab, is damaged during launch. The first of 
 three crews arrive 11 days later for a 28-day
 stay. They make in-orbit repairs and set records
 for time spent in space.
 Russia had the first woman, Svetlana Savitskaya,
 to participate in a space walk on July 17, 1984.
 With her partner, Vladimir Dzhanibekov, she
 conducted welding experiments for over three hours
 outside the Soviet space station Salyut 7.
 Savitskaya had become the second woman to fly in
 space during a Soviet mission in 1982.
 There were all these "firsts" by Russia. Yet
 Russia has yet to land a man on the moon? Why?
 While people seldom hear about it, nor do they
 listen even if so, Russian Cosmonaut Boris Volynov
 has gone on record saying that he does not believe
 that Americans landed on the moon. It seems he is
 far from the only one to think this way. Indeed,
 it is doubtful he is the only cosmonaut to feel
 this way.
 Further, one astronaut--Neil Armstrong, the first
 man to walk on the moon--has confirmed some
 doubts. This is not to say that he supports the
 contention that man did not land on the moon. He
 is an astronaut, after all. He probably enjoys the
 notoriety. And you have to wonder if some of the
 past astronauts might have been given the death 
 sentence for planning to go on record about such
 things? Or were there merely some bad "accidents"?
 Whatever the case may be, Armstrong is getting
 older. And he does seemingly admit that something
 is amiss.
 Indeed, there is definitely something wrong here.
 If you take a moment to view video footage of the 
 moon landing by U.S. astronauts from back in the
 1960s, you'll notice that the dust kicked up by
 astronauts immediately settles down, just as if it
 was sand on the beach. Yet we all know that not
 only does the moon have less gravity, but it also
 has zero-atmosphere. Therefore, the moon dust
 should travel further given the force and little
 to counteract it. Yet, for some strange,
 unexplained reason, the moon dust resettles back
 to the ground at the same gravitational rate of 32
 ft./sec. as the earth.
 In a letter I received back from the astronaut
 Armstrong, which asked him about this strange fact
 of the same gravitational pull on both the moon
 and earth, the response I was sent surprisingly
 admitted that, yes, the gravitational pull should
 be different. Of course, Armstrong didn't come
 right out and admit that this was the case. That 
 might be the death sentence for him--similar to
 what 3 other U.S. astronauts experienced in the
 1960s when their simulated rocket mysteriously
 blew up during a ground test? Oh, it was just an
 accident? It makes you pause for a moment.
 Now, of course, it looks like the race to Mars has
 begun. U.S. President George W. Bush has stated
 that, perhaps, man will walk on Mars by the year
 2020. Bush stated that NASA may send astronauts to
 the moon again so that they may experience the 
 effects of space travel shortly before sending
 them to Mars.
 But if you look at the facts, you really have to 
 wonder: Has man made it to
 the moon yet? 

 Mark Farrell    
 Pravda.Ru <http://www.pravda.us>"
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