Tommy wrote:

Mike Rosenberg wrote:

"N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <N: dlzc1 D:cox T:net@nospam.com> wrote:

Hell, this crap was funny once.  Too bad we have to have it regurgitated
over and over again.

I haven't followed Tommy's history on the topic, only coming across it
on those occasions when someone for some unknown reason crossposts to
alt.parenting.solutions, but leaving science and Tommy's lack of
knowledge aside, has anyone ever asked him to explain why the Soviet
Union, at the height of the Cold War, was complicit in his imagined
fraud?

That just proves my point......The Soviets had just launched Sputnik, Not
only was America, in an arms race, we were also in a space race. During
that time, the Russians were kicking American ass when it came to space.

All of the sudden we go to the moon.

You would think that if we really went to the moon 'BACK THEN' people would
have any problem going today with all of the technology.

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They wouldn't, if they wanted, for instance, to give up the Iraq
War and come home and build more Saturn V's. But even then, we
couldn't populate the moon with Saturn-V's, since they'll only
deliver about 3 tons to the lunar surface - no return. To return
that brings it to about 500 pounds delivered. The Saturn V was
wonderful, but extremely inefficient as a lunar delivery system,
we used missiles because we got so good at building them in the
nuclear arms race. 

The best way to get stuff to the moon is to move it from earth 
orbit to lunar orbit with simple boosters and slow-boat Hohman
trajectories and then land it by retros and/or crash it in a 
controlled manner with airbags, and get it to earth orbit by 
helium bag-launched scramjet, and do it all robotically.

Then the bots use simple optics to focus solar energy to cook
oxygen out of alumina, common lunar dust, and refine the aluminum 
into ingots or beams and sheets for later building, and store the 
oxy below ground, and the return craft can use oxy pumped through
solid aluminum dust cast-fuel engines. This way they could deliver
the fuel to earth orbit or to the earth's surface. 

Given a while using the moon as this kind of a "battery" for the 
earth and the space program can virturally eliminate the cost when 
it comes to sending a lot of first colonists. You see, the moon is 
made of rocket fuel materials and easily powered to produce it using
sunlight at 1340 Watts per square meter!!! You can weld aluminum 
with nothing but a big magnifying glass on the moon!!
Steve