<miso@sushi.com> wrote in message
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Check out archive.org for old web info.

I hadn't realized Chuck was selling Area 51 panoramics. You can
download mine for free. I get about 25k visits (not hits) a month, so
I'm turning down a nice chunk of change by not having ads, but the
server cost is under $10 a month. Bandwidth may eventually become a
problem. I serve up 25G to 30Gbytes, with a 40Gbyte limit. I make the
work of the feds easy by hosting my website in Vegas.

I got 22 visit from Nellis this month with 83 Mbytes of data transfer.
I haven't bothered to check what they are downloading, but I suspect it
is redflag audio. NASA downloaded 92Mybtes thus far this month. Odds
are these are just employees with the same kind of curiousity we have.
If they wanted to surf in secret, I'm sure they know how.

Chuck does have a good set of photos from Freedom Ridge, so the detail
is good but the photos themselves would date back to the last land
grab. Since the base put up that wall (of shame!), we may have to start
photographing the base from the north to see what they are hiding.

The web analyzer somehow is now recording the web search hits. Area 51
and Groom Lake get about 60x the traffic of the Tonopah Test Range.
This proves that hiding stuff in plain site is better than secrecy.
Edwards south base is a good example. You can see south base from the
border, but since the base isn't every remotely a secret (like the
TTR), nobody cares.

The best thing to do with information is put it on the net. Once
something is out in cyberspace, it never dies. The only information I
don't put out are things the base would change if published, such as
frequencies, and crash site locations, since the plane parts get
swiped.


krackula wrote:

On 30 Oct 2005 18:23:36 -0800, miso@sushi.com wrote:

<http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1330758&nav=168XGVQf>

da_bastige wrote:

<miso@sushi.com> wrote in message
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Let's see...Chuck Clark gets his house raided by the FBI, an

associate

of his gets questioned by the FBI regarding Chuck's activities, and

I

get told by security to stop published photographs on the net of a
certain base. I'd say there are a few people "doing something about
it."

I don't know who that is.  What are you doing?

we talked  with  Chuck on a visit , last weekend. ( my son-in-law,
brother-in-law, daughter and myself )
 he was at the Inn when we were there.  nice guy, tho prints of his
wide view vista shot of groom lake  are  rather  high priced !  ha hah
a ha hah a   he had quite a lot to say about the visit  from the feds.
thinks they had his phone tapped and waited until he was out of town
to act. said LOTS more that but  I don't think I'd  better repeat it
here !  interesting !

dunno who told you to stop publishing your pictures but I'd be
inclined to take them serious tho.  ( if it was any of the " boys "  )
what happened to Chuck might happen to you next.  with all this new
homeland security stuff in place, they can do a lot more than they
used to be able to get away with. not that many people really know
all that much about area51 with all that misdirection stuff on the
web. ( east entrance, etc )   it's  also why I never mentioned
anything  much about the base picture I uploaded on alt.binaries.a51
for you to look at , after talking to Chuck .

they already surely have checked you out , completely, and still
taking your pictures, and looking around , is probably OK ...
they just don't want the whole world to know too much detailed
stuff . ( if you know what I mean )  if they didn't, they'd probably
already have visited you and taken everything.  I'd make a backup
of everything and secure it in a safe place, just in case !

same thing happened with Hawthorne !  the web used to be loaded with
pictures, maps , info pages etc. now you can't hardly even find
listings for " The Naval Underseas Weapons Testing Laboratories  " .
the " boys " had it all removed " in the interest of national security
 " .

still, it's all pretty exciting , isn't it ? h aha ha ha ha a ha
especially   with the slight element of danger !



k

Best thing to do is start a Free Country Project.  Go take over somewhere,
like the Baja Penn. or something.  This country is toast....

Ezekiel 38 and 39 KJV