| Subject: Re: that place on the high mesa near basecamp ! hey miso ... |
| From: miso@sushi.com |
| Date: 14/11/2005, 02:01 |
| Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51 |
The drive is fine. I don't recall the road names anymore, but you can
see the "monument" from a distance, so use it for navigation.
http://www.lazygranch.com/projfault.htm
The radioactivity level there seems to be just background, at least at
ground zero. I never tried to find where they did the drillback. Often
radioactivity escapes from hot gases. It may be that the area was so
unstable they didn't bother to evaluate the test. I'll make it a point
some time to visit the DOE reading room and see what details they have
released on the blast.
While you are out there, check out the "meteor crater"
http://www.lazygranch.com/meteorhw6.htm
Also, you might want to do the drive over Quinn Mountain. The forrest
service road dumps you out in Garden Valley. I ran into some real
assholes in Garden Valley, sort of challenging me as to what I'm doing
there. Garden Valley is where the people in Alamo have vacation homes
to get away from it all. They don't like visitors. There is deeded land
out there, but it is posted.
Most communications lasers are IR, so spotting them would require a B&W
CCD or nightvision. At best, you would have line of sight to Bald
Mountain, but Halligan Mesa isn't all that high.
krackula wrote:
thanks Guy ...... thats an interesting place. you're right about
those radars , some of them can hurt you if you get in front of them.
I used to watch the techs explode pigeons in the rafters
( for fun ) of the high bay buildings ( Redstone Arsenal ) with those
Nike illuminator radars. they'd aim it up into the rafters of the
wooden storage / docking building and flick it on for a couple of
seconds and " pow " dust and feathers would rain down !
it'd be fun to get a better , up close, look at more of their
equipment. friends told me that they had a laser communications
link beam aimed back down towards Groom Lake but I can't imagine
how they'd get over those hills into the base, repeaters maybe. I
checked out the place but didn't detect any laser commo equipment
now. probably got rid of it for more modern satellite equipment, or
the project was over etc. .
have you driven out to the base camp nuke explosion ( faultless test
) site, and if so how was the road out there. I read it's 13 miles
long, off the paved road , to the sites. could a 2 wd suv make it ok
? far as I know it's probably the only publicly accessible test
site on the area51 region. I'd like to take my equipment there and
look for collectibles ! ha ....
k
On 11 Nov 2005 23:48:00 -0800, miso@sushi.com wrote:
That is Halligan Mesa. You can't get very close by the road, though the
first no tresspasing sign is not valid. I spent a bit of time with the
county assessor office (or maybe recorder, I forget) and the BLM. The
USAF just owns the top of the hill. I don't recall what is at the 2nd
no tresspassing sign, i.e. does it have a fence or not. Anyway, you
could park and hike around the hill. I can't vouch how high the RF
field is at the facility. In theory, they are suppose to fence off
areas that exceed unsafe limits, but we are talking about the DOD. ;-)
The first time I went to the Warm Spring repeater site, I took the
wrong road. I parked beneath the site at a different repeater site
(telco), then climbed the hill. It was about as steep as Tikaboo.
Anyway, in the distance I heard gun shots, and in a minute or two I was
joined by a herd of Big Horn sheep that decided to climb the same hill
I was climbing. Fortunately, they kept their distance.
Regarding the ULF, after reading the UWB manuals, I think a passive
approach won't cut it. I have some ideas on active circuitry.
Getting back to Haligan Mesa, if you look carefully at the terraserver
images, you can see there is disturbed earth between Basecamp and
Halligan Mesa. I suspect there is a cable buried there. In theory, an
easement would be recorded, but we are talking about something between
the BLM and the DOD, so maybe the county wouldn't have any records.
krackula wrote:
miso , whats that big installation up on the high ground on the road
that base camp is on ? have you ever been up there and gotten a
closer look ? looks interesting from the railroad valley / base camp
road .
on the dirt road to lunar crater to do some ULF emf measurements
and
tests , we came upon a huge herd of antelope , probably 50 or more of
them. they were on that smooth dry lake bed on the way in to the
crater. they were beautiful. awesome ......
k