I don't think I want to leave my telescope on Tikaboo all winter, even
if I had the automatic gear. Note that this particular hangar can be
seen from many spots in the hills, not just Tikaboo.

I know security gets sloppy in the winter. I drove up to the front gate
once in January just after it had finished snowing. I parked for at
least ten minutes without any security presence. They finally sent the
chopper, then later the camo dudes showed up. IIRC, they didn't use
their normal perches, but rather parked on Groom Lake Road. With the
snow on the ground, you could hear their radios crackling, somewhat
like the sound effect on Half Life.

There is a flag starting at the end of January. January in the ranges
can be nasty or nice. You can never predict the conditions.
krackula wrote:

On 2 Dec 2005 21:27:48 -0800, miso@sushi.com wrote:

FYI, I just finished comparing this panorama to older ones on the net.
The base now has "privacy fencing" on both side of hangar 19. So much
for the theory of climbing Reveille and looking at the hangar from the
other side.

Well technically you can't be sure there is a privacy fence all the way
across the hidden side (from Tikaboo).

This photograph is of the area in question
<http://www.lazygranch.com/images/a51pan/september2005/groom_sept2005_hangar19.jpg>


miso@sushi.com wrote:

http://www.lazygranch.com/images/a51pan/september2005/groom_sept2005_17761x1200.jp2

The wind was pretty nasty when I did this photography, shaking the crap

out of the telescope. Still, not a bad panorama. As before, you need a
jpeg2000 reader.
http://www.irfanview.com/
with the jpeg2000 plug-in.

The "privacy" structure looks complete. [Find the tanks on the hill,
then look down on ground level and a bit to the left.]

It looks like there is something parked near the taxiway connecting the

runways. It almost looks like a Predator, but it has no wings.

thats interesting , about that privacy fence.   for sure that means
some juicy stiff is happening there , so much so that they would go
through all that trouble to stop you from getting  a peek.    still ,
if you wait long enough , they have to move the  " what ever it is "
from behind the fence or inside the hanger  out  into plain sight to
fly it  or what ever they are up to ,  with what they are hiding.
( probably at night too )

guess the fence means that getting a  random casual look , isn't as
likely anymore and you actually have to be there when they expose
" it "  to view during operation and or testing !   oh well ........

guess you'll have to start building your own home made
wall penetrating  UWB 3d radar now Miso !
make sure you make it back pak able , tho !!  ha hhah a ha

dagburn it anyway !!!!! how do those guyze expect us to get a
" peek  " if they keep messing with things like that  fence ????
yaya y ya ha h ah hahaa haa


maybe you could use the example of deer hunters and install
one of those little CCD  IR / motion   " deer cams " that the hunters
use now, but modified for your viewing application and disguised
as a bush or large  fiberglass rock to avoid detection !   it's gonna
get pretty chilly up on that knob this time of the year ,  and " they
" probably won't trot out the good stuff if they see you  hang'in  up
there either. 

makes things tougher a bit , for sure !