On 25 Jan 2006 10:37:58 -0800, "thomsona@flash.net"
<thomsona@flash.net> wrote:

miso@sushi.com wrote:

I'll see if I can get the CLUI people to look into this. They would
know why it is restricted. There would have to be a Public Law Order to
restrict the land, but I'd don't know how to research that.

It wouldn't be out of the ordinary to store items in an old mine. That
particular area is probably more desolate than central Nevada.

TerraServer photography and topomap show what seems to be a big mound,
roughly elliptical and about 600 x 250 meters in dimension, with either
adits or maybe stations on a firing range along the sides. (The more I
look at the picture, the less sure I am of what the object really is.)
It would be useful to know the location of the warning signs and the
exact wording on them.

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=13&Z=11&X=223&Y=2645&W=1

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=11&Z=11&X=891&Y=10585&W=1

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=12&Z=11&X=446&Y=5292&W=1

thats the problem with those satellite maps !  it's actually a rather
large depression with steep sides ..... definitely not a firing range
!   old  topo maps show that same place to be a dry lithium lake
inside  those steep surrounding hills !   
( or did they bury something huge in there ??? ha hahah a   )
 there are two rather large  white wooden signs , about  4' tall and
7' wide. they  say something like " Military Restricted Area , no
trespassing " , armed guards 24 / 7 ..... lethal force authorized  and
maybe something else .. but thats the jist of it !  there are other
signs that say it's a munitions disposal area as well , hanging on the
fence line !
( what kind of munitions needs a facility like this for disposal ? and
what the heck is that big oval thing all about ???  )  
  you can see  one main dirt road into the facility ,  the one that
goes into the opening in the hills to the depression !
one white sign in just outside the fence line on that road , and it's
about  100 yards ( maybe a little more ) off the main highway  to the
fence.  if you drive up towards the sign to read it , there are a
number of   VERY obvious metal boxes with connecting wires 
and other signs of the  intrusion detection equipment all over the
place. they took very little trouble to try to hide it !  if you look
WAY up the road past the white sign and past the gate / fences ......
you will see a set of solar panels and an array of odd looking
equipment just at the entrance to the opening into the valley behind.
it appears to be  satellite communications equipment with unusual
long slender pyramid / plexiglass looking antennas that point up to
the sky. looks  to be some new generation UWB style antennas with no
white covers on them !   or ??? .. never seen stuff like it before !

the 2nd white sign is just up  the  highway  a ways  on another dirt
road into the fenced in area.  just like the 1st one and also lots of
intrusion stuff can be seen there as well !  

if you look at the satellite maps and have the  depression in the
middle of your view ...... move up and to the left a little and see
the  large smoothed dirt field ( debris from tunnel excavations ?  ),
and a large dirt parking lot. in the upper left corner of the parking
lot you can see what looks to be a rather large underground 
door and tunnel access ! as is always the problem with satellite maps
, it would take a " real " look -see to actually  discover what is
showing there !  (  ha ...  )  I have seen satellite views that  show
a couple of semi trucks parked  in that lot , along with what seems
to be some military trucks !  dunno what happened to those views , as
the current ones just show the empty parking lot with no vehicles ! 
they seem to have vanished ! ha h ha haha ha a  

I do know that driving up to read the signs will bring the  cammo
dudes in a hurry,  to be so far out in the middle of nowhere ! you
have VERY little time before the " boys " get there ! on one visit,  I
got both a menacing black helicopter and a bit later the cammo dudes
to boot !    seems that it might depend upon what is happening there 
( or ? ) as to how seriously they take your presence near the facility
!    it's an interesting location, full of mystery and intrigue !  BOY
! ... I'd love to get the 50 cent tour in that location !  what is
that oval all about ????  I have spent  mucho time at both Redstone
Arsenal  (  near the ammo humpers school ) and at  Ft. Hood , and
because of   my jobs , always had a lot of EOD buddies. I've seen my
fair share of munitions gathering and disposal and absolutely none of
it looked anything like this place !!!   interesting place
.............



k 


there was so much unexploded ordinance lying around the tank gunnery
ranges at Ft. Hood , sometimes , that you could load up a 2-by  in
about 45 minutes .  I got to " off " a whole lot of that material
myself through my EOD buds !!  fun ...........