| Subject: Re: lowfer RDF units .......... |
| From: miso@sushi.com |
| Date: 10/02/2006, 03:05 |
| Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51 |
They are fun as a collectors item, and to take apart for study. Universally, the rotating contact is a stereo phone jack. The ferrite and coil designs are not all the same. Some are a twin ferrite design, which looks cool but doesn't work as well as the larger single ferrite design. The twin ferrite might be a cost reduction technique. The winding of the coil is also interesting. You would have to google a bit, but the better ones use two windings (same size) that are combined to make one loop. There is a good reason for this, which I believe is to make the coil work well single ended (as opposed to needing a differential amp). Mine has two large coils and two small ones. Perhaps the other coils are for different bands. A real problem with these RDFs is you can't read the dial very accurately since it is analog. Those beacons are on a 1khz plan, so unless the beacon can be IDd via Morse code, you can't tell what frequency you are listening too. What I like to do is use a shortwave radio with CW filter to find beacons. Once you find all the beacons you can with just plain AM, I go to CW. You can find the carrier with CW since it will produce a beat frequency, which would be a constant tone. Once you have the carrier, you can use passband tuning to move the CW filter to the sidetone which has the beacon ID Morse code. [Positive shift for USB, negative shift for LSB] Another technique that is a bit more hightech is to use the ARGO program in beacon mode. Use your shortwave radio in AM mode with a reasonably narrow filter, say 2kHz, which is what you would use for sideband. With ARGO running on your PC, it will take a real time FFT in a manner where you can see the Morse code scroll on by. NDBs are supposed to go away, but who know. These things seem to have a life of their own. However, you might want to log a few beacons while they still exist. Krackula wrote:
On 9 Feb 2006 13:31:39 -0800, miso@sushi.com wrote:I have a bendix 555. It's not nearly as good as using a shortwave antenna (like a Wellbrook with sufficient wire) and shortwave radio. The filtering in these RDFs isn't so hot. The target market was marine IIRC. These are quite common flea market items. FWIW, the Bendix 555 had the best null out of the units we tried. Other others were a Ray-Jeff and some other model I don't recall. There are ferrite based loops such as sold by Quantum, MFJ, etc., that you can use with a shortwave radio. Krackula wrote:some of these maritime RDF units are probably an excellent and economical RDF unit for those lowfer air beacons ...... herze one that looked pretty nice ........ http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NewMar-Digital-Direction-Finder_W0QQitemZ4610800122QQcategoryZ26444QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem they don't show up in the sw listening NGs or the receiver searches on ebay .. so they usually remain a bargain. think some have a motor drive on the rotational antenna on top and adjusts it's self automatically as you move around ........ keeping the direction set ! might be good for BCB listening as well ! just a thought ........roger that ....... thanks for the info about those. appreciate it !