Krackula wrote:

On 19 Nov 2006 17:44:43 -0800, miso@sushi.com wrote:

Krackula wrote:

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good  pictures . those are great telephoto shots .

supposedly ,  the hanger doors were open most of the day and had
something  VERY interesting to see in there ....... by the time those
pictures were taken , the doors  had been  closed. probably hastily ,
as people approached.  sometimes people are lucky and catch stuff up
on the pylons as well ..... but evidently not this visit.

It is really hard to take photographs of something inside a hangar.
This is because the amount of light on the subject is very small. I've
done 3 stops of over-exposure and hardly made a dent on the shape of
the item in the hangar. But the long exposure over great distances
means more thermal effects.

that's what I hear from numerous people .  it'd be heck , wouldn't it
.... to see a great photo op inside the open  hanger  doors and not be
able to get a shot of it !!!   ha ha ha hah aa

>From where I parked, it was a two mile hike to where I took the photos.
I probably should have gone another mile. The hike was relatively flat.
The general area is full of what are probably illegal no tresspassing
signs. My route doesn't encounter any of these signs, but there are
probably shorter routes.

I know the route that you probably took , no signs at all if you go in
that way ...  pretty rough on your vehicle  ......... they can see you
coming for miles if you enter that way , tho.   probably think you are
a local , if you come that way .

The roads are smooth, though hardly safe. It is almost like driving in
a really clean ditch. Due to curves, you can't see very far ahead.

If the path is rigged, I didn't see any detection hardware. Detecting
someone on foot is harder than detecting a vehicle.

they have the " standard " little metal box with the wire hanging out
of it ,  I won't say where they are on the entrance road (  I know
that  you know how to easily  find them  )  ....... probably got them
around the fence line as well .

 I park near the

official entrance to the rance, so it is possible someone can guess
that if a car is parked by the road, somebody is snooping.

they dispatch vehicles   from the guard  shack  on the access  road  ,
located just below the rise on the entrance .  unlike the contractors
in  NV, they stay well back and just watch you from a distance .....
maybe they have " other  " forms of surveillance they rely upon more ,
dunno.

This gate is far to the south of the actual base. It isn't manned.

Tejon Ranch has 3 different perimeters with gates , one inside the
other . the outer one , the gate at the culvert bridge
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.85546,-118.49428&z=18&t=H&marker0=36.19889%2C-115.11667%2CNorth%20Las%20Vegas%20NV&marker1=38.99754%2C-119.20330%2CN%2038.99755%20%20W%20119.20329&marker2=38.99531%2C-119.20449%2C1.0%20km%20NxNE%20of%20Weed%20Heights%20NV&marker3=34.86417%2C-118.16250%2Crosamond%20%5C%2C%20ca&marker4=38.98722%2C-119.20806%2CWeed%20Heights%20NV&marker5=35.13222%2C-118.44806%2C%20tehachapi%20%5C%2C%20ca


, the 2nd , more serious one , where the cattle guard and  traffic
cone and other stuff is located
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.86015,-118.50261&z=18&t=H&marker0=34.86417%2C-118.16250%2Crosamond%20%5C%2C%20ca&marker1=38.99531%2C-119.20449%2C1.0%20km%20NxNE%20of%20Weed%20Heights%20NV&marker2=38.98722%2C-119.20806%2CWeed%20Heights%20NV&marker3=35.13222%2C-118.44806%2C%20tehachapi%20%5C%2C%20ca&marker4=38.99754%2C-119.20330%2CN%2038.99755%20%20W%20119.20329&marker5=36.19889%2C-115.11667%2CNorth%20Las%20Vegas%20NV
it's way more than it appears to be,  in this view !


 , and the final one with the heavy gate and guard shack , it's
located here and manned by the security personnel .........

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.90689,-118.52308&z=18&t=H&marker0=38.98722%2C-119.20806%2CWeed%20Heights%20NV&marker1=36.19889%2C-115.11667%2CNorth%20Las%20Vegas%20NV&marker2=34.86417%2C-118.16250%2Crosamond%20%5C%2C%20ca&marker3=38.99754%2C-119.20330%2CN%2038.99755%20%20W%20119.20329&marker4=35.13222%2C-118.44806%2C%20tehachapi%20%5C%2C%20ca&marker5=38.99531%2C-119.20449%2C1.0%20km%20NxNE%20of%20Weed%20Heights%20NV

they  " know " you are coming LONG before you get to this last place !
it's down in the same basin with the base and can't be seen from
outside the base ( or even when on the road into the base,  more or
less ) unless maybe you are up on the mountain or behind the base and
looking back down on it.

they will meet you on the long entrance road WAY  before you come
upon the ( nearly hidden by the lay of the land )  guard shack gate.

there is an impressive array of security features associated with this
place.  not too shabby ..........

naturally  "  all of this "  can be clearly seen on the satellite maps
or from aerial views from  light aircraft ( or homemade UAV  flying
parachute photo platform skimming over the trees , see kraky chute in
alt.binaries.a51 )  and does  not necessarily  require a visit there
" in person "  do discover any of this information.  ( my disclaimer
ha ahah aha ha  )

those pictures on alt.binaries.a51 were taken with a  regular little
digital camera with nothing fancy for lens etc.  make your own
judgements of where they were taken based on that !  h ah aha ha
 ha ha  ( scary huh ?  )  hear tell you could smell the coffee brewing
in the guard shack from where those pictures were taken. dunno myself.

it'd be interesting to live  on a farm on the higher land to the east
, towards the Tehachapi highway with your telephoto equipment .....
you could probably get some interesting pictures from there, at times
late at night .

Night shots are difficult. Night vision helps slightly, but there isn't
much light through a telescope. I might try a sensitive CCD. I have one

>from Supercircuits.

just drop a  "  wireless digital traffic  detector "  in  the brush on
the   road into the place and remotely ( disposable pay as you go
cellfone or  2mtr repeaters ? ) develop a " normalized "  traffic
routine for the place. when the traffic becomes unusually heavy  , run
over after dark and get ready  for a photo op .....  same  technique
works quite nicely in a number of applications that you can think of,
doncha think ?  (  this'll  scare the bejeebers out of someone .... eh
??  h aha ha ha hahah )

get any of those great free outdoors catalogs , Bass Pro Shops
or Cabelas and take a look at the NEW ( for 2007 ) generation of
motion detecting infrared  digital game cameras. their prices have
fallen dramatically and they have super features never dreamed of 8
years ago.   cammo paint is standard.   you can use those for MANY
important applications and they work while you are away.  graft on a
pay as you go digital cellfone and  " blamm  you've got a super cam !!
" .................  <g >

A gun catalog with the cover torn off showed up in the mail. [No idea
whose catalog it is as the name was ripped off] It had a page of those
motion detection cameras. Not exactly at throw away prices, but very
slick. Fully digital with SD cards. Perhaps I can attach one to one of
Steve Medlins cows.

I had no idea there were so many electronic hunting gadgets. About the
worse one I could think of owning is a device that generates a buck
mating call. Sure, some horny deer may show up, but there is always a
chance that a mountain lion will show up looking for lunch.

I think remote video would be better.
http://www.northcountryradio.com/index.htm#anc2

this is  all standard stuff for tabloid  reporters and urban
detectives  these days .. maybe they've got something there !

k