Krackula wrote:

On 6 Dec 2006 00:36:00 -0800, miso@sushi.com wrote:

While they contemplate shutting down the TTR, they are expanding the
landfill on the base. Hey, remember, this is the government.

The report is here:
http://www.nellis.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-061113-053.pdf

They put a photograph of the old F117 hangars on page 25, which I
cropped out of the report:
http://www.lazygranch.com/images/ttr/afd_061113_05325_2.jpg

The landfill on Google Earth is around
N37.801886 W116.761528

some people are saying that  some of the announced base closure
candidates   are part of a plan on a national  level to try to make
people think they are closed and  take them from the limelight , so to
speak.  lots involved with this ..... some of it ( supposedly ) on the
web if you know where to look.

take the hawthorne base , for example !  it has been on the " hit "
list several times lately  but  has  " lots " of   important
indicators that suggest some  activity at the base is growing and
expanding.   I'd like to elaborate  on that,  but can't .....
unfortunately.

perhaps the question is  " closing  what " in the TTR ?  for sure the
red flag ops will still need the land areas and  all the training
equipment  , targets, commo infrastructure etc.  they routinely keep
housed there and set up for the exercises.   does " closing " the
TTR say they  will   no longer involved  in the ( very active )
developmental and field testing   programs they  have there ( like
the  EMP program ,  to name one of several  ) ?

it's interesting that you mention the landfill   ........ NTS has
nearly  always thought of  ( what we now call the TTR )  that place
as a " waste dump " so to speak ...... using much of the area as a
sort of nuclear testing   wastelands , long before it was an inhabited
base.  patched and hidden  " dog legs " are all over the place .....
and several of the nastiest  alpha  radioactive surface contamination
locations that ever existed in the USA are located there  ( tho they
have supposedly been cleaned up now,  so much stuff remains buried and
hidden there  it'll never really be quite safe ... never ! ) .

DOE really screwed that area over at times long in the past .....  ha
haha ha h ....... no tell'in what they have done there recently as
well !   if clean slates I , II, and III and the nearby double tracks
( slightly  west of the TTR  fence line , out the west gate on nellis
)  sites don't scare the beejeebers out of you ...... then nothing
would.    the thought of what might be scattered  in the top soil or
buried in old  time  dumps  ( not to mention the  wells ,  evaporation
pools etc < tho supposedly cleaned up now .... what does cleaned up
mean and how would anyone be able to get  / find  them all ?? > )   is
creepy ....... how'ed you like to be one of those guys working there ,
especially at the main airfield area...... smack dab in between the  3
clean slate sites ??  h aha ha ha ha a  yikes ........  I'd be wearing
my lead lined shorts for sure !

The good news about plutonium dispersal is due to the large atomic
weight, the particles don't go very far. It's still a freakin' mess,
but a well contained freakin' mess. I haven't checked lately, but those
sites have been in the process of clean-up for some time.

I suspect Groom has a landfill. It is hard to tell since they have done
toxic clean up that also looks like a land fill. But if Groom doesn't
have a land fill, then the TTR landfill might serve both sites.

The Pahrump Valley Time attended the TTR "shutdown" meeting, which was
held at the Tonopah Convention Center. Yes, they really do have a
convention center. The article was within the last two weeks.