On May 18, 7:43 pm, krackula <<krack...@i.am>> wrote:

On 18 May 2007 16:06:10 -0700, m...@sushi.com wrote:

On May 18, 2:25 pm, krackula <<krack...@i.am>> wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2007 20:23:49 GMT, "BogusID" <Bogu...@YesItIs.com>
wrote:

"Area51watch" <area51wa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1179466150.480424.73660@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

Here is a different take on the alleged "underground base" at Dulce,
New Mexico:

Was Dulce, New Mexico, A Nuclear Waste Dumping Ground?
http://www.hometown.aol.com/norio1944/page7.html

Norio Hayakawa
http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa

A picture is worth a thousand words.
Are there any decent satellite images available for the area, or is the view
obfuscated?

<http://www.acme.com/mapper/?ll=36.93361,-106.99664&z=13&t>

underground nuke dumping in indian land ??? ........

the Dulce underground base is supposed to be located  2.5 miles n.w.
of Dulce   at point A on this map.  on the  river ridge over looking
town.  no one has dumped nuclear waste in an active river bed
area that I know of ! ( in the USA )

I've driven around on each and every road up there and just like the
Tehachapi base there is nothing there. it's TOTALLY open to the public
and no restricted or military , or even any  fenced off places.
( tho it is an indian reservation, and says so  .... it's open to the
public )

the only  evidence of  " people " of any kind is  indians and
buildings at  location  B on this map ( on the reservation  )
and it's just simple farm buildings  and you can drive around
all over that place (  the indians  like to have visitors and they
sell souvenirs  ).

  it's  just plain   farm buildings and indian reservation now days.
location B is WAY too close to town , as well, to be the fabled base.

people have combed these parts by the zillions and zipola , nada ,
zilch can be found. just like the Tehachapi base , all this
reservation  land is completely open to the public , the
Apache indians would NEVER allow white eye's government to
have a secret underground base on their reservation land ,
so they say.

there is NOTHING there , never has been ... still ain't !  anyone can
go there and see for them selves.  all this , and people still go on
and on about the  hoax .. like it has a life of it's own.

my question is why don't these same people  move in on REAL
known underground bases like Hawthorne ,  that ( so called )
munitions disposal area  on the hawthorne highway ,  Yucca Flats and
area51 etc  and spend their efforts on a known  authentic underground
activity ??  it's plain incomprehensible to me .......  go  figure !!
if the government wants to conduct covert underground activities ....
these known places are exactly what the doctor ordered ....

oh well .......

SAYYYYY !!!    Hey  Area51watch !!! . is that YOU Steven J Smith ???
ya ya hahah ah a  .......... NOW I GET IT !!!  ha ha hahaaha

http://www.acme.com/mapper/?ll=36.95600,-107.03121&z=14&t=O&marker0=3...

It's no secret who is Area 51 watch.

yea it's norio .......  I was just  messing with  him.

I'd like to see him  benefit from your example and go out and spend
some " serious " field trip  time and go take a REAL personal look
at underground base activity.   I can think of at least  2 maybe 3
(  if I want to get in trouble talking about it ha hah a  )  places
where he can sit  ( like you do ) with his long lens camera and
RF sniffer , watch activity and  collect information all day long.
of course , trouble is that if you sit and watch THOSE
 places too long  ugly things WILL happen to you.  maybe that's not a
good idea after all !  ya yay ahaha ha a  still it's easily do able
those places are a beehive of  underground activity  .....
very interesting  stuff .

norio  has mentioned bio labs and  related stuff on his site .......
why doesn't he get up and go out and photograph a REAL bio lab
and post the expose on his web site ?   there is a nice , right out in
the open , field  bio lab activity right in the  same area as   the
golden pentangle  (  hawthorne, TTR , a51, NTS, Nellis )
 facilities. anyone can drive right up to it and take pictures and all
.   once again, I think people have to use " good judgement " when
taking pictures of those places and especially
with revealing where they are or what their equipment looks like !
it's there for the taking ..... ( ha ahh aha  )

it's just that there is such a wealth of REAL, certified, bona fide ,
no joke - no kidding stuff out there ....... most of it seething with
interesting ( and highly secret ) activity ...... why not stick with
that stuff and go deep into that ??? ...... it's time well spent  and
, for sure, isn't promoting hoaxes and myths !  just a thought ...

The deal with underground construction is where do you dump the dirt?
If you off-haul, the convoy of trucks will attract attention. If you
spread it out, the desert floor is visibly altered. Create a pile of
dirt that wasn't there before, someone will notice.

Oh, Norio has done his "hands on" stuff around Groom. I did a Tikaboo
with him about 4 years ago.

If you have a spot you want investigated, name it. I have little
tolerance for 20 questions. A waypoint will do. Weren't you the one
who sent me to that lame-o spot near Tehachapi, where all I found were
"PODS". Not PODS like the body snatchers, but PODS as in portable
storage.