Re: Ethanol in gasoline killing honeybee populations nationwide
Subject: Re: Ethanol in gasoline killing honeybee populations nationwide
From: "Alfred E. Newman" <MyMailB@gmail.com>
Date: 20/05/2007, 06:53
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.conspiracy.antichrist,seattle.politics

On May 15, 9:03 am, Bobby <bobbyfonta...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
There is a problem with honeybees throughout the nation.  They leave
their hives and never come back.

"Bugs? Why should we care about insects dying?"

One reason is that honeybees pollinate most of the vegetables and
fruit we eat. So with the nations honeybee population disappearing,
food prices are going to rise dramatically. With the high price of
gasoline and already rising cost of food, anymore problems that jack
the price of everything else up is of great concern to everyone.

You like eating in restaurants right? I mean even if you don't buy a
lot of produce, everyone likes to eat at restaurants. So rising food
prices is even of a great concern for people who have little regard
for anything, even criminals, even ones in jail because the poor
quality food they get now will get worse if the honeybee problem isn't
solved. And even they can make a difference on this issue because the
problem is being caused by the public not knowing what's going on. So
if you know what the problem what's causing the honeybee to disappear,
the people causing the problem will have to change what they are
doing.

"So what is it I'm talking about that's causing the problems in this
country to get worse?"

It's all about ethanol being added to gasoline. In the spring of 2006,
the Bush administration began forcing the oil industry to add ethanol,
which is corn whiskey, "white lighting", to gasoline. It started out
as a way to give better air quality. The byproducts of ethanol are
large emissions of acetaldehyde and formaldehyde. Acetaldehyde is what
causes you to have a hangover after drinking heavily. Breathing it is
very dangerous. It's a carcinogen meaning it causes cancer.

The upside of using ethanol as an oxygenate, which means it introduces
a higher content of oxygen into the combustion process of gasoline, is
that it gets rid of smog. It's claimed to provide cleaner emissions,
which in a way it does. It makes smoky visible exhaust fumes
invisible, but it does this by making it into more dangerous toxins
that are worse for human health and the environment.

Acetaldehyde and formaldehyde mix with smog which dirties the air
around major cities caused by diesel engines from trucks and coal
fired smock stacks. It dissolves it into invisible pollutants that are
not regulated by the EPA but are much more dangerous. This process
effects water vapor wherever ethanol is used causing it to rise higher
into the atmosphere than it normally would which prevents it from
coming back down as rain until the source of ethanol is stopped or
lessened, such as on weekends when there isn't any rush hour traffic
like there is during the work week. Then it crashing back into the
lower atmosphere in ways that can cause violent storms.

So in exchange for extreme weather pattern changes that can result in
drought, flooding, hurricanes, tornadoes, and earthquakes, along with
an overall warming effect that we attribute to global warming, we
breath pollutants that we can't see instead of unsightly smog that
isn't as dangerous but no fun to see floating over the our cities
landscapes.

As the ethanol program became law, the state of California took the
EPA to court and proved that using ethanol actually worsens air
quality in the hopes of trying to get out of using it. The EPA came
back saying that ethanol use was no longer about air quality, it was
about national security. The Bush administration, supported
surprisingly by Democrats and environmentalists, claimed that we need
ethanol to offset our dependence on foreign oil. The problem with
their argument is that it takes more energy to produce ethanol than it
gives back in mileage. California lost its case.

What I mean is that we have to import more oil to produce ethanol than
if just refine it into gasoline. And on top of that, it's a very
expensive and intensive production and distribution process that's
causing gasoline prices to rise in ways that we are not being told the
whole truth about.

In fact not only are we paying more for gasoline because of ethanol
being added to gasoline while corn prices are going up which is making
all our food bills stack up, the government has to subsidize ethanol's
production to make its sale profitable. This means that after
everything it costs us to put ethanol in gasoline, with it worsening
air quality, high food prices, changes in weather patterns, and a
whole list of other problems I don't have room in this article to
mention, we get a tax bill at the end of the year from the government
so they can pay ethanol producers to be able to afford to do this to
us.

"So what does this have to do with honeybees, or CCD, Colony Collapse
disorder, which is what the honeybee problem is called?"

CCD first showed up in the US in the spring of 2006 when ethanol first
started being added to gasoline. Brazil modeled its energy independent
state on ethanol produced from sugarcane. They have an ongoing CCD
problem since it began. Luckily both corn or sugarcane are self
pollinating so we can be assured that whether we have food to eat or
not, we can still have plenty of ethanol if the honeybee disappears
altogether.

Ethanol in gasoline replaced an oxygenate called MTBE which had been
causing winter weather to be unseasonably warm in the spring of 2006.
Its use was phased out for polluting groundwater nationwide. It really
was more about what MTBE was doing to weather patterns but no one is
talking about that publicly. Ethanol was assigned to replace it
because if they stopped using oxygenates altogether, smog would return
to our cities while global warming ended which would point a finger at
its root cause, MTBE.

During the interim period when they were making the changeover MTBE to
ethanol, national weather patterns got cool like it normally would at
that time of the year. And in places that were already using ethanol
or where it's produced from highly pollution intensive refining plants
which give off overwhelming amounts of acetaldehyde emissions,
honeybees came out of their hives for spring cleansing flights where
they defecate after months of being closed in their hives because of
the winter cold. And they never returned.

Then as summer wore on with the ethanol program getting up and
running, there were little or no more problems with honeybees caused
by ethanol. This is because summer heat and long sunny days contribute
to the chemical process that eliminates smog which causes all the
pollutants, except low level ozone and peroxyacyl nitrates, or PAN's,
both dangerous pollutants to human health and the environment, to rise
into the sky carrying large amounts of water vapor with it.

But when it's cool, not so cold as to force the bees to stay in their
hives but not hot enough for acetaldehyde to mix with nitrogen oxide
and rise into the upper atmosphere, it settles on plants in the
morning dew that honeybees set on, which kills them.

"So why don't they just stop using ethanol or create vehicles and
smoke stacks that don't emit these kind of pollutants from ethanol?"

I guess that's kind of a dumb question at this point. It's like asking
why the oil industry doesn't use a refining process that produces
fuels that gives 20 percent more mileage with 70 percent less
pollution in both gasoline and diesel that they have known about since
before they first started adding lead to gasoline which is harmful to
both engines and human health.

It's because of the extremely lucrative growth of medical products and
services that depends greatly on sick people to keep its profits
soaring. If you can ever get one of the investors behind this grand
scheme to talk off the record about what they are doing, like Bill
Gates, he would tell you that it is part of a bigger picture that most
average people would never grasp the importance of. They believe by
making millions of people chronically ill, it puts them on the cutting
edge of solving the riddles of the human equation so they can find the
cure for all disease while coming to better  understand how the
atmosphere responds to pollutants by searching for a way to control
weather patterns so they can turn the world into a paradise.

"The question is who is going to get to live in this new world of
theirs, the people funding the experiment or the guinea pigs, you and
me?"

>From what I have seen by watching the way these guys operate, none of

us will, not them or us. No one will get a chance to visit this new
garden of Eden where we can live forever because all they are really
interested in is greed and corruption while there is really no one
running this program, which they keep secret, much of it even from
themselves.

>From whatever perspective they have come up with in this modern day

and age as opposed to how they made their living corrupting history,
rich Americans have convinced themselves that making people sick and
causing the earth's atmosphere to have convulsions to simulate a
pretend global warming is good for business because it's putting
control of the worlds wealth in their hands.

>From where I sit in my cubicle behind he scenes of the intelligence

industry, they already had control of the world before they started
this game to take it over. To me, money is just a tool that helps move
products and services around more efficiently. What money represents
is human effort. The more people you have working for you, and I
assume you want smart healthy people performing the tasks you hire
them to do, the bigger palace they can build you.

In fact I can understand why you would need to have so many sick
people and doctors to give you a hedge on coming up with cures for all
diseases. That is if you are gassing your subjects with poison before
they get to their labs and hospitals to work on their experiments.
Pollutants make human beings lazy and stupid before it kills them.
Toxic scientists are a crapshoot for coming up with quality results.
But lots of toxic scientists are better than fewer even though ideally
a few healthy ...

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 I just heard it was cell phones causing bees to swarm and leave there
hives !! Why isn't gasoline causing the bees problems ???????