Subject: Let's Hear It From The People Of Clarion. June 11, 2007.
Here are some space people who seems to be very nice people to know.
I have heard quite a bit about these people in the past. It may seem
that this person is taken against his will but you will usually find
that what a person does on Earth is agreed on before the people come
to Earth. Many times they were formerly part of the type people who
were abducting them or it is an experience that they chose to have in
this life.
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Exclusive Interview with Maurizio Cavallo By Paola Leopizzi Harris
Piedmonte, Italy November 2006.
C-ntactee or abducted? Maurizio Cavallo's life enigma is part of this
extraordinary interview.
Paola Harris and Maurizio Cavall are talking about a very sensitive
issue, the photographs he says he took of the alien beings he allegedly
met.
Paola Harris urges him with more detailed questions.
Paola Harris: I'm only an investigator of those who claim they had
experiences. My duty is to do a good job and to faithfully report what
witnesses say, because only the correct information should reach
people, with no distortions.
Maurizio Cavallo: I felt obliged to tell my experience after eleven
years of silence to relate what happened to me and could happen also
to other people. Something that brought an inner, complete
transformation in me, in my life and in my family. But after I
regreted doing it because, though I met many open minded people,
beautiful and great personalities who wanted and wish to know the
truth, I found also a lot of wi-kedness. I met with people who were
selfishly driven by personal aims and they disgusted me. I have met
also unstable people, really in-ane people. Two months ago I hosted
here, after many telephone calls, a guy who presented himself as the
chief commander of the extraterrestrial fleet and, to demonstrate he
was a real alien, he showed me what he called a laser beam, but it
was only a chinese pocket torch with some small lights on it. These
things really upset me.
Paola Harris: How do you get rid of those kinds of visitors?
Maurizio Cavallo: It was my intention to invite him for lunch as I
usually do with the people I meet for the first time, to treat them
like friends, like people dear to me...but, when I realized what kind
of person he was, despite all my best intentions, I had to invent an
unexpected appointment. I h-te to l-e. I love to be frank. Also if
sometimes I sound a little rough, I like to be outspoken, I can't
stand a world built of li-s but, in some cases you have to protect
yourself. That man was a dangerous person.
Paola Harris: There are also people who wish to consider you a guru,
how do you manage them in these situations?
Maurizio Cavallo: I cause them to dislike me. It means that, if they
think I can give something to them, if they ask me to teach something
to them-and I have always been very clear about it- I tell them that I
am not a guru and I cannot teach them anything apart from my personal
experience. If they will be able to learn something from my experience,
I will be happy but I cannot teach them anything because I am still
learning. And when I say that they often have a negative reaction
because they feel betrayed. They start to treat me like someone who
doesn't want to give them what they consider a property of their own.
From when my experience started in 1981 I have become a person who can
be loved but can be ha-ed as well.
Paola Harris: In 1981 you were married, you had children?
Maurizio Cavallo: Yes, I was married and I had two children, the girl
was seven years old and the boy was four.
Paola Harris: Did everything happen all of a sudden?
Maurizio Cavallo: Yes. I had had some experiences like many people, I
had seen strange lights in the sky but that night, the night of the
abduction, it fell upon me all of a sudden. I did not expect anythng
like that and from that moment, everything has changed for me.
Paola Harris: I noticed you used the word "abduction". Do you call it
an abduction or a contact?
Maurizio Cavallo: I call it abduction.
Paola Harris: Because it happened against your will?
Maurizio Cavallo: Yes, I did not want it, they obliged me. I was at
home. The whole story is in my book, all the dramatic moments I had to
live. I was at home and I felt...I started to feel physically sick,
feverish and suddenly I heard an internal and imperious voice ordering
me to go out, to go back to the hills of Monferrato where we had been
the night before for a walk with some friends of mine. After dinner in
a Pizzeria we had gone for a walk on those hills for ten miles, more or
less, from Vercelli. We had left our cars and we had started to walk
when we saw a globe of light, red like a fire, which descended behind
some trees giving us the impression it was landing. We were all very
excited and went in that direction to see what was happening. It was
deep night and the ground was rocky and difficult so we gave up and
went back home. As soon as I came home I started to feel sick. I
felt warm, I felt cold, I felt feverish. At first time I thought it
was caused by poor digestion. I thought I had eaten something that
had made me sick. I could not sleep and I started to hear that voice
complelling me and ordering me to take my car again and to go back
to the hills. In that moment I started a titanic fight, an incredible
fight. I tried to wake up my wife to tell her I was sick and I had to
go out, but my wife went on sleeping as if she was under the effect
of some drug. In my book I talk in detail of a particularly strange
experience..It was like my house was entrapped in something...I don't
know how to define it, it was also like being frozen. I don't know if
that is the correct word.. I went to the bathroom to have a glass of
water, the glass slipped from my hand and fell on the ground but it
fell in slow motion, very, very slowly.
Paola Harris: Time had stopped?
Maurizio Cavallo: It was a Saturday night and the street was full
of the noise of a holiday night, but in my house everything was silent.
When the glass broke in pieces on the ground I heard no noise.
Everything was crystallized. It was like time had slowed down. It is
obvious it was an abduction because I did not want to go. The more I
resisted that order, the more the pain in my head increased. I noticed
that when I began to take the car and to go to the hills my pain
lowered, but when, on the contrary, I thought I wanted to stay home,
my pain increased, stronger than before. It was a form of constraint,
this is the reason why I say it was an abduction. If they had asked me
to go with them I had answered no.
Paola Harris: At that time it looked a bad experience. And what now, in
2007?
Maurizio Cavallo: Today not. Also in my book I say that those who were
my contollers, I call them abductors, those who imprisoned me, were the
same ones who gave me my new freedom.
Paola Harris: They showed you a new truth.
Maurizio Cavallo: They showed me that Cosmos is not what we believe,
that life is not what we live, that everything we call reality is a pure
illusion. They opened for me a window on Cosmos, they brought me to the
edge of ma-ness and they destroyed the Maurizio of the past. The old
Maurizio existed no more, they had skinned him, lapidated him but they
had permitted to the new Maurizio to look beyond the borders of what we
call reality.
They gave me an immense gift, They gave me freedom.
Paola Harris: But you had to pay a high price...
Maurizio Cavallo:</STRONG> A very high price.
See, when I understand that these people come to me waiting for
something, treating me like a guru, I always say that I have no
truth to give them. I only have my own truth and it belongs to me
completely. I feel upset when I realize that this truth, so strong
in my mind, can be manipulated...Not everyone can understand.
Paola Harris: Of course, we are on planet Earth. We are human beings,
a peculiar r-ce. We are growing up but you are trying to bring us from
elementary school straight to secondary school but we cannot jump that
way It is a slow process. It happened to you, they made you able...
Maurizio Cavallo: Yes, but perhaps I had been trained for it before.
Paola Harris: That's exactly what I wanted to ask you.
Maurizio Cavallo: Yes, because I realized that nothing happens by
chance, my mother had been abducted too.
Paola Harris: How did you know it?
Maurizio Cavallo: They showed me some images, something like recorded
images. They showed me images in a sort of monolith, in a ruby-red
pyramid used like a screen. I saw images of a girl walking in a
graveyard, at first sight I could not recognize her and they told me:
"It's obvious you can't recognize her, she is your mother when she was
a girl; she knew the s-crets of the stars too. "This means that they
have programmed us.
Part 1.
John Winston. johnfw@mlode.com
Subject: Let's Hear It From The People Of Clarion. Part 2. June 11, 2007.
Here he tells what the people from Clarion look like.
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Paola Harris: Did you mother talk to you about it? Did she ever ask you
something?
Maurizio Cavallo: My mother d-ed when I was thirteen. I had a special
relationship with her, very intense. We had no need to talk.
She looked at me and I understood, I looked at her and she understood.
I cannot remember any dialogue with my mother but we had a complete
relationship. When she d-ed I missed her very much and my pain was
beareable. I could not feel the intense pain you feel in you mind and
your body when you lose somebody, I was quiet because I knew nine months
before she had to d-e.
Paola Harris: How did she di-?
Maurizio Cavallo: She had had low blood pressure but the d-ctor had
misunderstood her symptoms for high blood pressure symptoms and had
prescribed some medicine to lower her blood pressure more.: She had
taken them faithfully and her heart gave out so she had to be
hospitalized and her condition worsened quickly. When she entered the
hospital, nine months before her d-ath, I knew she was going to -ie.
I was sure of it and I was waiting for that moment quietly. I was
sure that, in any case, nothing could have parted her from me. At
that time I was thirteen and I believed in G-d, the C-tholic Go- and,
of course I prayed for my mother, I prayed to Go- to let her live and
to heal her. When my mother d-ed I became very angry with -od because
I had previously believed that G-d listened to all our p-ays. From
that moment I said:" You don't exist, you don't exist because you
didn't listen to me." As time passed and thanks to the experience I
had in 1981 I started to think in a different way. I understood that
a D-vine Mind exists but it is completely different from the image we
are used to. A Di-ine Mind exists but not all our p-ayers can be
heard because there are programs and our life and de-th are only
some roots of these programs. With my mother I have always had a
perfect relationship. That night they showed me my mother when she
was a girl.
Paola Harris: Did they ever show your mother alive?
Maurizio Cavallo: Yes, I met her.
Paola Harris: I know they brought you to Clarion. Did you meet her on
the Earth or on Clarion?
Maurizio Cavallo: I saw her at home.
One night they told me I would be having a pleasant visit. At first
I thought I was dreaming because I was in my bed and I was sleeping
but after I realized I was awake. I saw my mother not with the
appearance that I remembered. She was physically different. I knew
she was my mother but she did not look like her.
Paola Harris: How did she look?
Maurizio Cavallo: She looked much younger, we did not talk to each
other but she made a gesture that was her typical gesture, a wave of
her hand that my mother used only with me, she smiled at me and
that's all.
Paola Harris: Was it like a dream?
Maurizio Cavallo: No, at first time I thought I was dreaming because
I was in my bed, but after I realized I was not because I left the bed
to go towards her but she moved her hand to stop me, she smiled at me
and made that gesture so typical.
When we were babies and went to bed she made that gesture to say
good night. In that moment I felt I had to go back to bed and I had
to sleep again. I am sure it was not a dream.
Paola Harris: Inhabitants of Clarion are made of flesh and blood?
Did you ever meet them in the streets?
Maurizio Cavallo: I have met them at the supermarket.
Paola Harris: Were they doing the shopping?
Maurizio Cavallo: No, we had a meeting there...People don't have to
believe in what I say, they only have to think about what I am
relating and ask themselves if there could be something true in it.
If their conscience gives them the feeling that all this could be
real, they could start to interrogate themselves till the big
question: "ARE WE ALONE?" My photographs are not a proof, also
because I do no spread them: I have photos of UFO, of aliens. This
is a photo of Suell, I talk about him in my book.
Paola Harris: He could well walk among us!
Maurizio Cavallo: He walks among us. I met him in a big city I
cannot mention, he gave me a little black card emitting some
impulses that told me to do or not to do certain things. At a
certain moment I felt I had to take a train to go to a town where I
had to meet some of them: While I was travelling I asked myself:"
But why do I have to take a train while, in other occasions, they
just abducted me?" Perhaps it was a trial, something I could not
understand. When I arrived to that town I plainly met the same
person I had already met on a magnetic ship, a UFO.
Paola Harris: Which was the place of the appointment?
Maurizio Cavallo: I knew I had to go to a bar and wait for them.
Hours did pass. Time was passing by, nobody was arriving and I begun
to be anxious. I begun to think I had invented all that thing...after
a long, long time, Suell arrived, happy as a child, asking me:
"Hello, were you waiting for a long time?" Everything is in my book.
Paola Harris: Is he normal? Did he speak in a normal way?
Maurizio Cavallo: Yes, he has a house and works on Earth.
Paola Harris: How can you recognize them?
Maurizio Cavallo: You can recognize them.
Paola Harris: You can recgnize them!
Maurizio Cavallo: He asked me if I had noticed something strange in
the girl working at the supermarket cashier's desk. I had noticed
nothing unusual but soon I thought a little and said: "Yes, she had
something strange! A strange earring looking like a world into
another world. When I had seen her she had not caught my attention
but, after they asked me, I remembered her.
Some of them work and live here on Earth.
Paola Harris: Why?
Maurizio Cavallo: Because they must help us a little in our
e-olution, they don't have to condition us, they only must have an
influence.
Paola Harris: Do they have a completely alien DNA or half alien
and half human?
Maurizio Cavallo: Some of them are totally alien and came here when
they were already adults. They apparently are thirty or forty years
old.
They just arrive so they don't have problems to get documents...and
their DNA is completly alien, if we want to define them.
Then we have those who are born here; they have an alien DNA but
take a human body with a human DNA, so we can call these ones hybrids.
Paola Harris: Do you think that the G-vernment knows about it?
Maurizio Cavallo: Not all the men in the Go-ernment, only a few.
Paola Harris: The women look like movie stars.
Maurizio Cavallo: They are gorgeous. You must note one thing: these
are Polaroid photos made without developing process and there is always
an abnormal light absorption because they absorb a-omic light. During
one of my last contacts, in a base under the sea near Genova...(Cavallo
shows a photograph, N.d.R.)...This is a photo where you can see those
who in the B-ble were called "Cherubs", they are astral beings.
Part 2.
John Winston. johnfw@mlode.com