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From: "john f winston" <johnfwin@mlode.com>
Date: 06/07/2007, 07:03
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51

Subject: Are The Space People Walking Among Us?  Part 2.      July 3, 2007.

  This talks about a lady space craft driver.
  I once went down to San Jacacinto, Calif. and interviewed Kelvin Rowe.
He had taken over 365 rides on UFOs.  He also said that some of the
space people were working in a store in that city. His wife said she
could indentfy them as space people evern when they drove by Kelvin's
house in a car. Kelvin was also taught how to go through a metal wall
and come out unharmed on the other side.

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  A-amski was not the only one of the c-ntactees claiming that
extraterrestrials were blending in with the human population. Howard
M-nger also claimed to have been contacted by extraterrestrials posing
as ordinary human citizens while he was training to be a spokesperson
for the space brothers. In one case, the extraterrestrial was posing as
a real estate salesperson and asked Me-ger to accompany him in one of the
extraterrestrial's car where he was taken to a new contact location to
meet at appointed times with the space brothers' ships.
  Men-er describes the incident as follows:

                                 "Meng-r"

  In the fall of 1947, a young man, neatly dressed in fall clothing,
entered the shop. Though he said he was a real estate man, there was
something odd about him. And he didn't act like other extroverted, back
slapping real estate men I knew. He told me he was thinking of putting
up some For Sale signs near a place called Pleasant Grove, about eight
miles from the shop, and would like some advice. I agreed to go with
him. He did not introduce me to a young lady waiting in the car. Halfway
there the conversation fell off and there was silence. Very abruptly the
man changed the subject. Howard, we know you are keeping your contacts
with our brothers a s-cret as you have been instructed. I didn't know if
I should feign surprise or not since I had detected something unusual
from the beginning... Oh, you ARE and I chuckled. He simply came out
with a wide grin, and drove a few hundred yards without speaking
further. You see, Howard, I have been taught much of real estate, but
little of acting.
  http://exopoliticsjournal.com
  Men-er's extraterrestrial friends went on to describe a s-cret location
where he would later rendezvous with the extraterrestrial vehicles at
appointed times. Me-ger's contact experiences and UFO sightings are
supported by independent witnesses, photographs, film and even scientific
analysis of an alleged potato. Timothy G-od conducted a thorough
investigation of Men-er and concluded that some of his extraterrestrial
contact experiences and photographs/films were genuine.
  It is the manner by which Meng-r was contacted in 1947 that alerts us
to the presence of extraterrestrials blending in with the human
population. The extraterrestrial had learned about the real estate
trade, was driving an ordinary car, and was accompanied by a female.
Both extraterrestrials had assumed the identities of real estate agents
and could in that way evade detection while learning much about human
society. Again, as in the case of Ada-ski's two extraterrestrials, they
worked as a pair suggesting a buddy system.
  At one of Howard Meng-r's 'conventions' at his home in April 1957,
three visitors from Venus were allegedly photographed. (JW  I've met
Howard personally in Phoenix, Ariz. at a UFO Study Convention.  In
a movie that made about him and others he held a 45 cal. automatic
pistol and he said that he would take care of any person who gives him a
hard time, or words to that effect.) Several of the photos were given to
Dr Frank Stranges who showed the photos at his UFO lectures. At one of
these lectures in December 1959, Dr Stranges claims that he was
approached by a P-ntagon official who offered him the chance to meet with
one of the Venusians.
  Dr Stranges then describes elaborate security procedures he had to
undergo, and his subsequent meeting with Valiant Thor at the Pe-tagon for
thirty minutes.
  Thor was apparently a guest of the gov-rnment for three years, and
regularly met with senior officials including P-esident E-senhower and
Vice Pr-sident Nixon. Dr Stranges claims he was told never to reveal what
had happened. Nevertheless, he eventually wrote a book about his
encounter, Stranger at the Pentagon (1967). In his book and subsequent
interviews, he describes the messages of world peace and s-irituality
delivered to him and senior US officials by Thor.
  Predictability, Stranges' claims were greeted with widespread ridicule
from UFO researchers given the lack of evidence that such a meeting had
occurred. Yet Dr Stranges' background in law enforcement, his educational
credentials and his prominence as an evangelical th-ologian all point to
an individual with impeccable integrity who would not fabricate such a
hoax. If Dr Stranges' credentials and integrity are accepted, then it
appears that the Pen-agon housed a visitor from Venus for three years who
allegedly was able to meet with senior officials and was able to travel
to UFO conventions such as the Me-gers. It may be concluded that Valiant
Thor (and his associates) was able to interact with a range of private
citizens during his three year stay, these interactions were closely
monitored by intelligence agencies, and individuals were sworn to
sec-ecy.
  Another co-tactee who claimed to have met with extraterrestrials, posing
as an ordinary civilian, involves the case of a tenured professor in the
medical school at the University of Mexico, who was also a senior member
of the Mexican Ato-ic Energy Commission. The Professor used the pseudonym
of 'Prof Hernandez' and worked with a Mexican journalist, Zitha Rodriguez
to release his amazing story.
  He discussed how a very attractive extraterrestrial female, Elyense
(dubbed 'Lya' by the Professor), from the constellation Andromeda posed
as a student and visited him in his lecture classroom on several occasions
from 1972-1974. After realizing that she wasn't one of his students, he
eventually confronted her, and asked why she was coming to his lectures.
After having several conversations where she displayed remarkable
knowledge of physics as well as p-ranormal abilities, Hernandez was
eventually told by Lya that she was from another world.
  After further meetings in 1975, she eventually persuaded him to join
her as a co-pilot in her space vehicle. This how Hernandez described the
incident on 22 April 1975 in his diary:
  I had gone to participate in a conference on the theme of effective
neutralizers for anesthesia. That afternoon I felt particularly
exhausted As I headed for the parking lot, I scarcely imagined that Lya
was waiting for me in the car Hello, she said in greeting. Are you in
much of a hurry? No, it is only that I want to rest, I said. Would you
like to go on a mission as a copilot?
  Today has been an especially tiring day. Couldn't this be another day? I
asked, almost pleading. It is important, I cannot assure you that you
will have another opportunity like this. Very well I said as I locked the
door, if it is not too far, I accept.
  At this point, Hernandez drove his car to a remote location directed by
Lya. He then goes on to describe how they proceeded to enter Lya's space
vehicle and left the Earth's atmosphere.
  A round object of more or less three meters diameter was some meters in
front of us. Lya took out an apparatus of metal that was like a small box
of cigarettes and pressed a button. At that moment the door of that ship
opened itself from below, and we went through into the interior by means
of a small ladder. She touched a small lever with various buttons and
pressed one.. The ship silently rose into the air. The Earth withdrew
more and more, and thus I could contemplate the night, the stars and
see dozens of satellites of all types orbiting the Earth.
  Hernandez story was investigated by Lt Col Wendelle S-evens who
corresponded with Zitha Rodriquez. Stevens found many similarities with
other co-ntactee cases even though Hernandez could not have known of
these. He decided to translate Rodriquez book of Hernandez experiences
and eventually concluded that Hernandez was credible. As in the Adams-i
and Me-ger cases, Hernandez reveals that his extraterrestrial contact
could easily blend into the Mexican population. In contrast to the
Adamsk- and Men-er cases, Lya was alone and did not appear to have a
buddy. While she did not own a car, she knew how to navigate Mexico
City's road system to ensure that Hernandez could reach the destination
of her flying vehicle. Her ability to meet with Hernandez in city
locations and knowledge of how to travel to rural areas, again
suggests familiarity with the location and customs of the native
population. It is not only conta-tees that have discussed
extraterrestrials living among us, there are also the testimonies of
highly credible whistleblowers who make similar claims. Whistleblower
Testimonies of Extraterrestrials Living Among Us.

Part 2.

John Winston.   johnfw@mlode.com
Subject: Are Space People Walking Among Us?  Part 3.         July 4, 2007.

  This talks about a time when we have abducted space people.

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  Cont-ctee claims that extraterrestrials were living among us received a
significant boost by the whistleblower testimony of Command Sergeant
Major Robert D-an. De-n worked at N-TO's Supreme Headquarters from
1963-1967, and during this time was stationed in the Operations Center
with a Cosmic Top Se-ret clearance.
  He claims to have viewed a se-cret N-TO study that was commissioned to
analyze the threat posed by UFOs to NAT- operations in Eastern Europe.
The classified report was titled:
  An Assessment: An Evaluation of a Possible M-litary threat to Allied
Fo-ces in Europe. It focused on the dangers of UFOs being mistakenly
identified as an incoming ballistic mi-sile attack from the Sov-et
Union. -ean claimed that the NA-O study identified four different
extraterrestrial civilizations visiting the Earth. He said that what
really worried the N-TO top brass was that some of the visitors
looked so much like us that they were virtually indistinguishable.
De-n says that NA-O g-nerals were paranoid over the possibility that
some of the extraterrestrial visitors could be walking in the
corridors of NAT- or the P-ntagon, or even the W-ite House itself. In
an interview he said:
  There was a human group that looked so much like us that that really
drove the admi-als and the ge-erals crazy because they determined that
these people, and they had seen them repeatedly, they had had contact
with them. These people looked so much like us they could sit next to
you on a plane or in a restaurant and you'd never know the difference.
And being mil-tary and being primarily paranoid, that bothered the
gener-ls and the admi-als a little bit. That the fact that these
intelligent entities could be involved with us, walking up and down the
corridors of S-APE, walking down the corridors of the Pent-gon. My G-d,
it even dawned on a couple of them that these guys could even be in the
Wh-te House! Of course, as I said, being paranoid in those years it
really shook things up a little bit.
  De-n's testimony is a vital key in unlocking the truth of
extraterrestrials living among the human population. His testimony
conclusively demonstrates that official mil-tary and gover-ment agencies
are aware of this possibility, and in fact would undoubtedly have been
developing strategies for such a contingency.
  While NA-O viewed extraterrestrials living among us in the context of a
clas-ified Study assessing UFOs as a potential se-urity threat, based on
cont-ctee testimonies, it appears that the extraterrestrial visitors are
blending in to learn about the human population. In addition to learning
about human values and civilization, it appears that the visitors were
conducting a low key education effort to promote awareness of their
presence to a limited number of individual 'co-tactees'.
  Another important whistleblower case confirming the existence of
extraterrestrials living among us is that of Ingo S-ann. Sw-nn was the
first p-ychic employed in the C-A's remote viewing program that began in
1975: Project Star Gate. Swann's successive rate was so impressive that
by 1975 he was recruited by a covert go-ernment operative, Mr Axelrod to
spy on extraterrestrials. Swa-n remote viewed extraterrestrials on the
moon who had bases on the d-rk side.
  Sw-nn claimed that he viewed various structures on the surface and
observed extraterrestrials near them who were able to breath unaided,
thereby suggesting an atmosphere on the moon.
  Sw-nn's remote viewing was confirmed by Axelrod who sent Swan a book
by George Le-nard describing similar structures he viewed on the moon
using photographic analysis of NA-A images.
  http://exopoliticsjournal.com/vol-1/1-4-Salla.htm
  The success of Sw-nn and Project Star Gate in delivering accurate remote
viewing data to intelligence agencies quickly led to mi-itary agencies
asking Sw-nn to develop the necessary protocol for training mi-itary
remote viewers.
  S-ann's involvement with the covert activities of Mr Axelrod provides
valuable evidence on extraterrestrials living among us.
  In one incident, Swan describes how he was taken by Axelrod to a remote
location, thought to be, where they traveled to a lake to view UFO
activity. The goal was for Sw-nn to psy-hically gain information on what
the extraterrestrials were doing at what appeared to be a se-ret UFO base.
Swa-n described in detail an incident involving a UFO coming out of a
lake, drawing in some of the lake's water, and expanding in size from a
tiny spot into a large triangular vehicle. He passed on the psy-hic
information to Axelrod before they quickly left the area in order to
escape detection by the UFO. What is most remarkable in Swa-n's
testimony about his covert work for Axelrod is a supermarket incident
where he encountered a strikingly attractive female who he ps-chically
intuited was extraterrestrial.
  Swan- claims that he was shopping in a "Los Angelese City supermarket
when he noticed a very attractive, scantily clad female. He claims that
his body phy-ically began buzzing as he viewed her out of the corner of
his eyes and intuitively received information that she was an
extraterrestrial. At first dismissing the idea, he got independent
confirmation of her extraterrestrial identity by observing her being
followed by two of Mr Aelrod's operatives, also in the supermarket.
Frightened by the presence of Axelrod's operatives Sw=nn quickly exited
the venue due to his fear of what might happen. Final confirmation that
the female was extraterrestrial followed not long afterward when Axelrod
phoned Sw-nn to discuss whether the extraterrestrial female had
te-epathically communicated with him. Axelrod had been told by his two
operatives that Sw-nn had been in the presence of the extraterrestrial
and had possibly communicated with her. Axelrod was very worried about
this possibility and S-ann assured him that no tele-athic communication
had occurred. Investigative reporter Garry Be-kum describes what
happened:
  The renewed phone contact by Axelrod was far from ordinary. First
Swa-n received a mysterious phone call from a female operative,
directing him to a different phone. The call ended in dead silence,
suggesting that the phone line had been cut and spliced into. Once he
reached the designated phone, Swa-n engaged in a scrambled conversation
with Axelrod, asking about the strange s-xy woman in the supermarket.
Axelrod warned, "I feel obliged to tell you that she is really
dangerous." Apparently Swa-n believed that Axelrod's warning had
confirmed his worst fear. Not only were extraterrestrials on the moon,
but they had operatives here on Earth, among the ordinary people. If
Axelrod was to be believed, they were to be avoided at all possible
cost.
  Axelrod's efforts to monitor the extraterrestrial female, his concern
about Swan- being in te-epathic communication with her, and his warning
that she was dangerous suggested that Axelrod�s efforts were part of an
official policy to prevent any ordinary civilians from fraternizing
with extraterrestrials.
  The above supermarket episode helps confirm the testimonies of De-n,
Ad-amski, Me-ger and Hernandez that extraterrestrials are living among
the human population. While they generally appear to be very attractive,
they can blend in without standing out too much. Nevertheless, it does
appear that they can be identified by shadow gov-rnment agencies who
apparently attempt to monitor the activities of extraterrestrials living
among us. The Sw-nn episode demonstrates that not only are
extraterrestrials blending in with the general population, but covert
gov-rnment agencies go to great effort to monitor extraterrestrials, and
to deter private citizens from interacting with extraterrestrials.
  Another noteworthy aspect to Sw-nn's encounter with an extraterrestrial
is that she was followed by two of Axelrod's covert operatives. This
helps confirm that extraterrestrials blending in with the general
population are monitored by covert personnel who are drawn from various
special forces units in the mi-itary and intel-igence services.
  Another whistleblower case that helps illustrate the use of special
forces for such monitoring work is testimony from an alleged former
member of Britain's e-ite Special Boat Service who claims that during
his employment he had to arrest two females that he believed were
extraterrestrials. This is what he said according to a third party
recalling his testimony at a confidential gathering of UFO researchers:
  He claimed that he was once in the S.B.S., or the 'Special Boat
Service', which is a lesser known special intelligence service like the
S.A.S. within the United Kingdom. He was told to travel to the London
Underground, to South Kensington tube station if memory serves me
correctly. When he boarded a train, the supervisor with him poited out
two women on the train that he was ordered to take away. These females
were tall, blonde and blue eyed, and had the appearance of twins. He
described them as having quite high foreheads, and that they were the most
beautiful women he had seen, with perfect physiques. He described how
everyone else on the train seemed to be in a trance, and reacted to the
abduction of two people from a public train, with complete indifference.

Part 3.

John Winston.  johnfw@mlode.com

Subject: Are The Space People Walking Among Us?  Part 4 of 4. July 5, 2007.

  This says a law has been pasted so you can't come in cantact with an
extraterrestial.

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  He had not been told why they were being abducted, and was concerned for
their safety. As he took them away he said that they conveyed a feeling of
peace towards him. The man had been concerned that he may have been
indirectly responsible for bringing these two women into harms way. It was
after about a week or two that he was sitting in a restaurant in Canary
Wharf London, when one the two women that he had abducted, came over to his
table and smiled at him, and generally conveyed that they were safe to him
and that there was no need to worry.
  The above incident provides a valuable example of how extraterrestrials
living among us are monitored by various branches of the intelligence
community, including special forces personnel. It appears as though such
extraterrestrials can be taken into custody to gain intelligence of their
activities and subsequently released. Such a policy suggests that
responsible g-vernment authorities have determined that while
extraterrestrials themselves don't pose a national security threat, it
is the unauthorized disclosure of their presence which would constitute a
national s-curity threat. The behavior and concern of one of the women,
who reassured the intelligence operative responsible for arresting her
that she was safe, helps illustrate the benign nature of the
extraterrestrials living among us and how they don't directly pose a
national se-urity threat.
  Axelrod's concern over the extraterrestrial female's having made
contact with Swann suggests that extraterrestrials are presumably under
instructions not to disclose their true origins to private citizens.
Furthermore, Axelrod's 'extreme concern' that Swann had made telepathic
contact, indicates that any individuals who uncovers the actual
identities of extraterrestrials could be taken into custody for
debriefing or further action. It is therefore worth discussing the
importance of the go-ernment laws and regulations dealing with citizens
having unauthorized contact with extraterrestrials.
  In 1969, N-SA passed a federal regulation dealing with
Extra-terrestrial Exposure. The Extraterrestrial Exposure law offers a
legal precedent for the detention and indefinite imprisonment of any
individual who comes into contact with extraterrestrials.
  The most relevant passages concern the power of NA-A administrator
or his/her designee to: Determine that a particular person, property,
animal, or other form of life or matter, whatever is extra-terrestrially
exposed and quarantine such person, property, animal, or other form of
life or matter whatever. The quarantine may be based only on a
determination, with or without the benefit of a hearing, that there is
probable cause to believe that such person, property, animal or other
form of life or matter whatever is extra-terrestrially exposed.
  Most disturbing about this fed-ral regulation was that such detention
could not be appealed and due legal process, could be denied to citizens
on the basis of probable cause that they have been extraterrestrially
exposed. Given that the general public and elected representatives are
not aware of an extraterrestrial presence, this NASA regulation gives a
green light to practices and decisions concerning extraterrestrial
exposure that are not subject to congressional oversight or media
scrutiny. While the Extraterrestrial Exposure law was officially removed
and placed on reserve status in 1991, it nevertheless creates a precedent
that the legal counsel of any gov-rnment agency or m-litary department
could cite for possible enforcement against individuals who have
extraterrestrial contact. N-SA's regulation, and similar laws or
regulations in other countries, provide a powerful means of silencing
individuals who come into contact with extraterrestrials who have merged
into the general population.
  Essentially, anyone encountering such extraterrestrials could be
subjected to indefinite detention without any legal protection. This
would not only deter individuals from disclosing such interactions with
extraterrestrials, but would also help deter extraterrestrials from
disclosing their origins to ordinary citizens.
  Laws and regulations passed in the country-region United States and
elsewhere can be used as legal means of coercing private citizens who
discover the true identity of extraterrestrials living among us.
Accepting evidence that extraterrestrials are closely monitored and
covert agencies are responsible for ensuring that such information does
not get into the public domain, the conclusion is that private citizens
are at great risk if they make contact and government agencies which
wish to suppress this. Private citizens can be denied their
constitutional rights despite such laws or regulations prohibiting
unauthorized contact with extraterrestrials being withdrawn and placed
on reserve status.
  The evidence provided above in terms of the testimonies of different
co-tactees and whistleblowers suggest that extraterrestrial visitors
who are virtually indistinguishable from humans are living among us.
These extraterrestrial visitors appear to have very attractive physical
characteristics, extraterrestrial females being described as among the
most beautiful women that male observers have witnessed. The
extraterrestrials go to great trouble in learning the indigenous language
of the culture they are immersed in, learning how to drive and navigate
on highways systems, and taking innocuous jobs over several years. The
fact that these extraterrestrials visitors are monitored and even taken
into custody before being released suggests that a vast covert monitoring
system is in place.
  Extraterrestrials living among us appear to be operating in a manner
similar to a celestial peace corps where they try to blend in. They
presumably wish to learn about Earth culture and behavior; and to,
perhaps, assist in passing on information to selected individuals. The
fact that these extraterrestrials are monitored rather than immediately
taken into permanent custody suggests that decisions have been taken by
responsible go-ernment agencies to tolerate such an extraterrestrials
presence. The case involving Valiant Thor suggests that the monitoring
system created extends even to such visitors being given VIP status and
allowed to regularly meet with senior officials. Consequently, it can
be concluded that such extraterrestrials do not directly pose a national
security threat, though knowledge of their origin is deemed to be a
national se-urity threat where individuals are sworn to secrecy. This
would account for the great difficulty in gaining information about
extraterrestrials that have merged with the general population given the
very high security classification attached to this phenomenon.
  As far as national laws and regulations concerning extraterrestrial
exposure are concerned, the only means to ensure that private citizens
are protected if they do encounter extraterrestrials, is to have the
right to interact with extraterrestrials formally recognized. While
there is growing awareness of the need to have such a right recognized
based on eventual gove-nment disclosure of UFO's as extraterrestrial in
origin, it may require concerted public action to ensure this right.
Some progress to this end has occurred with the issuing of a
Declaration on Promoting Peaceful Relations with Extraterrestrials that
explicitly refers to such a right, and was adopted at a conference in 1:
on June 11, 2005.
  The third article of the Declaration states that signatories and
supporters: Affirm the natural right of all citizens to have open contact
with representatives of extraterrestrial civilizations in all cases,
and to engage in non-official diplomacy. Another initiative provides a
draft bill for an Extraterrestrial Contact Act to be passed in the US
Congress that would protect citizens experiencing extraterrestrial
exposure.
  It is likely that similar bills will eventually be presented in most
national parliaments.
  The fact that a number of extraterrestrials have chosen to blend in
with the general population will come as a great surprise to many still
unsure about the reality of the UFO phenomenon and the extraterrestrial
hypothesis. Even more startling is the possibility that extraterrestrial
visitors are given VIP status and have met with senior officials in the
country. The presence of extraterrestrial visitors quietly learning
about human languages, culture, politics and science will give to many,
great reassurance that humanity is being quietly assisted in preparing
for a future of open contact with extraterrestrials. For many others, the
opportunity to discover extraterrestrials living among us will motivate
individuals to quietly explore this possibility with friends or
acquaintances whose behavior may be a clue to an other worldly origin.

Part 4 of 4.

John Winston.  johnf@mlode.com