Subject: The Rense Radio Show. July 25, 2007.
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RENSE: Hold on right there, Ben. Let me ask you to pause. We'll take a
break, and come back to that thought. Eliminating C-ristianity. Very
interesting.
Lots already on the table here. My guest is Benjamin F-lford, the former
Asia-Pacific bureau chief for F-rbes magazine, who has just a stunningly
provocative piece up on the site written by Dr. Henry M-kow, Ph.D., who
interviewed Ben at great length. You'll see it up there on Featured Stories,
on the left hand side of my home page.
So by all means, take a look. Right under that, a story written by
Benjamin Fu-ford - the S-cret History of the Freem-sons in Japan - as well.
Be back in a minute.
[Break]
RENSE: Okay, back with Benjamin Ful-ord, live from Tokyo. He, by the way,
has published 15 books written in Japanese, with cumulative sales running at
over half a million copies. He's got his own weekly two-hour television
program over there, appears frequently on numerous other nationally
broadcast programs in Japan, and has regular columns in a variety of
best-selling Japanese magazines.
My guest, Benjamin Ful-ord. Lucky to connect with him. At showtime we
couldn't get through to his land line, which I had a hunch might be the
case. These c-ntroversial subjects, one never knows who might be playing
phone games. We have him on the line right now.
Go ahead and tell us, then, what this story about abolishing Chr-stianity
is about. Is that about the one world, N-w World Order r-ligion?
FULF-RD: Yes. What I first got wind of was a plan to k-ll Asians - reduce
the population of Asians. They told me, once I was invited in, that they had
a plan to reduce the population of Asians.
RENSE: Okay, excuse me, Ben, but when you say "They invited you in," who
is
'They' and what were you 'in'?
FULFO-D: What happened was I interviewed Heizo T-kanaka (ph), the former
Japanese finance minister.
RENSE: What year was this, approximately?
FULFORD: This year, in fact. I hit a tender spot. I confronted him with
having sold the Japanese financial system over to the Roc-efellers. Then he
sent the ninja, who offered me to join the Freemasons. They offered me the
job as finance minister.
RENSE: If I might interject here, please explain what it is. Most
Americans
and most listening in Canada, or wherever they're listening from around the
world, won't understand why or how the Rock-fellers are so heavily
entrenched and powerful in Japan. In point of fact, the Rockef-llers, I
guess, own much of Japan, and have since World W-r Two. So tell us a little
bit about that background, if you would.
FULF-RD: The Ro-kefellers, you have to understand their real influence.
Everybody outside of America seems to know how powerful they are, but they
try to hide this fact from their own people. You have to go back to the very
first Rockefe-ler. You have to go back to 1918. This is what For-es magazine
figured out...
RENSE: John Rocke-eller?
FULFORD: Yeah. He was worth about 250 b-llion in today's money. And the
ten
richest people controlled about 70 percent of the money supply. This was
before they took over the financial system - the F-d.
What they've done is hidden it all through a series of charitable
foundations. There's over two hundred, three hundred foundations. They use
this to finance universities, to finance research. So they control through
money, and they hide it through these foundations.
If you do a check, you will see David Roc-efeller is only worth three
billion or so. That's because the rest of it is hidden in these charitable
foundations, which they own and control.
RENSE: Okay, name a few of them. Just give us a few.
FU-FORD: Well, the Roc-efeller foundation, for one. There's a whole bunch.
Just look under Google with Rockef-ller and Foundation, and you'll see so
many. They're always considered the se-ret rulers of the Un-ted States, and
much of the world.
They are the hidden patriarchs of this sec-et g-vernment.
RENSE: Okay. How did the Rockefe-lers, on the planet, stand up to the
Roth-childs?
FU-FORD: There is an alliance and a split as well. The Roths-hilds
originally set the Ro-kefellers up. They helped them monopolize o-l. What
happened was the Ro-kefellers got very strong, and became the more dominant
partners in the whole enterprise.
Europe is still basically controlled by the Rot-schilds. The head of the
Rothsch-ld side of the clan is Phillip Ro-hschild, in London. There is
another group that controls France, Belgium and Holland, which is the Grand
Lodge of the Orient in France, and is another branch of the Ro-hschilds.
There was a German branch of the Ro-hschilds. They have laid low since
H-tler was purged. (JW I read lately that Hi-ler was an illegitimate
son of a Rothschild man.)
You have to think of it as royalty. Royal families interbred with old
financial families. They interbreed with each other and they keep control
that way. The Freem-sons are one of the se-ret societies they use to control
European and North American society.
RENSE: Who uses the Free-asons? The Ro-hschilds or the Ro-kefellers, or
both?
FULFORD: They both do. They also control Mo-sad and the C-A, as far as I
can
tell. Most of the people in the CI- think they're working for the U-ited
States of America. The reality is they are working for robber ba-ons.
So that's how people look at the Uni-ed States. They look at it as an
enclave controlled by the Rothsc-ilds and the Rockef-llers.
RENSE: How did that extend to Japan? By virtue of the victory in World Wa-
II?
FUL-ORD: Yes. It keeps being a Rothsch-ld sphere of influence and became a
Roc-efeller sphere of influence. You have to understand the Japanese were
pretty independent before World Wa- II, but they had close associations with
the Rot-schilds, who originally financed their modernization.
RENSE: They also pushed the Japanese to engage in the Russo-Japanese w-r,
did they not?
F-lFORD: Yes. Absolutely. They armed them for it, and they helped them,
and
it was a very successful venture. The Japanese had a deep gratitude as a
result.
[Bumper music]
To this day, they have very friendly feelings.
RENSE: All right. Let's pause on that, and we'll come back and find out
about the eradication of Chri-tianity on the planet, and the Mas-nic
influence, being of course employed at the behest of the Rockef-llers and /
or the Ro-hschilds. So we'll explore that.
My guest is Benjamin Ful-ord, who has a dynamite article up there,
courtesy
of the superb, I call him brilliant writer, Henry Ma-ow, Ph.D., who did a
lot of research on this and interviewed Ben at great length. We're very
honored to have it. You'll see it up there in Featured Stories. "Chinese
Sec-et Society Challenges Illu-inati."
Be right back with Ben Ful-ord in just a minute.
[Break]
RENSE: Okay, back with Benjamin Fulf-rd. Read the article by Dr. Henry
Mak-w, Ph.D., "Chinese Sec-et Society Challenges Illum-nati," and then read
the article by Ben Fulfor- right under that, in the Featured Story box at
<http://rense.com/>Rense.com. Click on Ben's name, go to his own website in
English. It's his own website, in Japanese, of course, but he's got one for
all of us folks as well.
Okay, the plan to eliminate Chri-tianity. Now you mentioned how the
Ro-hschilds and the Zio-ists set up their Jerusalem and their Middle East.
FULF-RD: What they did was they tried to make the B-ble prophecy come
true,
without the intervention of Go-. In other words, they did it. It wasn't any
Di-ine intervention.
So they are G-d. They believe themselves to be as powerful as Go-. [They
believe] there is no Go-; they are the equivalent [of -od] on Earth. They
are the descendants of Babylonian ty-ants.
So one thing I've been hearing, and this was disturbing - when I was
invited
to join - was that they did plan to reduce the world's population by seven
billion people.
RENSE: This goes back to Global 2000. One more word about this severely
ath-istic organization, which is using organized rel-gion to hide behind, as
they always have. It's not a big surprise. And of course, that leads to all
kinds of difficulties, shall we say. But it's an interesting thing to know.
Okay. You were invited to join the organization. A Roc-efeller ninja was
sent to make you an offer you could not refuse. But you decided not to
accept.
F-LFORD: Yes.
RENSE: How did you decide not to accept? We have plenty of time. So you
get
the offer, and what happened?
FUL-ORD: The next day I get contacted by a gentleman who says he
represents
a Chinese se-ret society.
RENSE: The very next day.
FU-FORD: The very next day.
RENSE: And how did that person know to contact you the very next day? How
did you determine later on that he or she might have known that?
FUL-ORD: I don't know. They keep their secr-ts quite well. I assume they
have a mole very high up in the organization. You have to understand that
the Chinese sec-et society also has deep roots in Japan. Maybe I should give
you a brief history of these people.
I recognized them from the history books. So when they approached me, I
already had some knowledge about them.
RENSE: May I ask another question? How did they approach you? Did they
call
you and say, "Ben, we'd like to talk to you," or did they just come knocking
at your door? What happened?
FULF-RD: I got a phone call from a gentleman who said he'd like to meet me
and talk about something important.
RENSE: Was he speaking English or Japanese?
FULFORD: Japanese.
Part 2.
John Winston. johnfw@mlode.com