Subject: Lids.
From: "john f winston" <johnfwin@mlode.com>
Date: 29/08/2007, 16:53
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51

Subject: Longevity Tea.                              Aug. 28, 2007.

  Here's a story about a person who drank tea and lived a long
time and it wasn't Liptons Tea.

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                              Lost Discoveries
  "A list of lost devices/inventions that need to be looked up
and re-examined."
  Keelynet, electronic, magnetic, power, space, geometry, zpe,
vacuum, Tesla, time, dimension, decker, le-itation, sound,
electricity, magnetism, electric.
  This is KeelyNet file will continually grow as new material
is added. It is intended to be a list of interesting ideas,
claimed inventions or discoveries which might be worthy of
investigation if we could find out more about them.
  Last Updated 01/03/98
  Charcoal-Gas Fuel
  keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  Mystery Ray Phenomena
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  waterfuel
  Water Fuel Mix
  Heat to Electricity Converter
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  paint
  Laser reflective paint
  01/01/98
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  alexander
  1 Watt in - 3 Watts out
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  rejuve1
  Rejuvenation Tea
  01/01/98
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  rejuve2
  Hindu Rejuven.
  01/01/97
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  caro
  Sealed Power Amplifier- 01/01/98
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  #866
  Power Tubes & Circuits
  -01/01/98
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  hickok
  Hickok F-ee Energy Generator
  - 01/03/98
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  diamond
  Manmade Gems & Tel-portation
  - 01/01/98
  href="http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  float
  Floating Magnets
  http://keelynet.com/unclass/lost1.htm
  fe-eral
  Magnetic Bills
  - 01/01/98
  Charcoal-Gas Fuel
  An Italian by the name of Professor Ferragutti invented
and developed a charcoal-gas driven car in the early 20th
century. This technology was said to have been used
extensively in Italy during the last world w-r because
Italy had no o-l wells.
  Ferragutti claimed his fuel was cheaper and safer to use
than gasoline.
  Cost for the charcoal-gas fuel at the time was reported
to have been only 5% that of gasoline.
  Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1986 12:55:05 -0800
  To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com
  From: mailto:richard.wood@usa.net
  Richard Wood
  Subject: Re: Charcoal-gas fuel If you can get a hold of
some old "Mother Earth News" magazine from the late 80's
they had several articles including step by step
instructions for converting a car that can run on such gas
or anything that could be burned like wood.  It was
basically an airtight wood stove mounted in the car and
the smoke was filtered and cleaned and then piped into
the carb. - Woody Kurschildgen of Hilden Germany.
  The limited information regarding this man would have us
believe he was disproved as totally fraudulent. However,
he made many interesting claims at the time and it might
prove worthwhile to unearth details of the devices he
claimed to have worked, should anyone be able to locate
such information. Prior to the rise of Hitler's regime,
Heinrich Kurschildgen claimed to have discovered a way
to make any inorganic material radioactive by using
mysterious rays. Using this process, he claimed he could
split the atom and use it to produce gold.
  Kurshildgen also claimed to have invented; a machine
that would c-re c-ncer a device that would stop any
engine by its rays, a method to purify steel is
reported to have obtained two German patents on his
inventions.
  Gas & Wa-er Fuel
  In 1974, Portugese chemist John A-drews claimed to
have developed a water to gas additive which would
lower the cost of gasoline to 2 cents per gallon.
  The additive was demonstrated to Navy officials who
confirmed that it worked as claimed without reducing
the combustability of the gasoline. The Navy decided to
make a deal for the formula, but on arriving at An-rews
lab, he was missing and the lab had been ransacked.

               Heat to Electricity converter
  A rooftop device, heated by the sun and using millions
of microcircuits to tap the freed electrons from the
heated molecules, was claimed to operate off the
'fluctuation voltage' derived from the static noise
heard on radios and amplifiers.
  Inventor Joseph C. Y-ter claimed in 1975 that such a
device would cost the consumer approximately $-00 and
be up to 90% efficient.
  It was demonstrated to the US g-vernment where it was
declared to have 'real potential'. The gov-rnment
promised a full-scale working model to be delivered
within 6 months of the demonstration, yet after the 6
month period, the inventor was notified that the
device was impractical.
  mailto:rod@ethergate.com
  Rod F-edlund
  jdecker@keelynet.com
  Jerry Decker
  Subject: Heat to Electricity Conversion Patents
  Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:17:09 -0800
  Hi Jerry, I've found a little more info on Joseph C.
Ya-er's heat to electricity converter. He appears to
have 4 patents on this technology....
  http://patent.womplex.ibm.com
/details?patent_number=5623119
http://patent.womplex.ibm.com
/details?patent_number=54703955470395
  They are listed as "reversible thermoelectric converters".
His last 3 patents appear to have been co-invented with 2
relatives. The patent lists....Joseph C. Ya-er - Jane A. Yat-r -
Joan E. Yate-
  (contact information omitted out of respect for privacy...
  Jerry) It looks to be the same guy. Well, that's all for
now. Talk to you later.
  - Rod Fre-lund

  High Efficiency reflective paint
  N-val Air Systems Command reported in 1981 the development
of a polished film paint which would reflect 98% of energy
directed at it from high energy laser beam weapons, thereby
rendering further Star Wa-s laser efforts useless.
  OverUnity claim in patent
  A report that patent #3,913,004 by Alexander claims a
discovery which would output 3 watts for every 1 watt input.
  http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/details?patent_number=3913004
Alexander
  Patent on IBM server abstract and basic details
http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/fcgi-bin/any2html
Page 5 of the
Alexander Patent  this is the page where it claims three
times more energy out than in lower left column for actual
power measurements upper to middle right column for 1:3
comment

                        Rejuvenation tea
  In a book written by French antiquarian Paul Lucas,
'Voyage dans la Turquie' (Paris, 1713), is a report stating
that the favorite wife of the Sultan had fallen seriously ill.
Lucas was summoned to see if he could help the Sultana to
recover.
  On entering the Sultan's harem, he noted two beautiful
young girls leaving the room. The eunuch explained these
girls to be 'odalisques', chosen by the Padishah to nurse
the ailing Sultana. Lucas was surprised that such young,
inexperienced girls would be entrusted to care for the
favorite wife.
  The eunuch laughed and said, those 'girls' are not as
young as you believe, they are both well over seventy.
Further queries by Lucas found that these 'odalisques'
drank a tea made from a certain herb which kept them young.
This herb was grown only in the garden of the Grand Serail
(in Constantinopol) and kept for the exclusive use of the
harem.

                     Hindu Rejuvenation

  Portugese court historian Lopez de Castanheda, reported
on the life of a Hindu reported to have lived 370 years. At
the time of his death, he had rich black hair and possessed
the full youthful vigor of a young man.
  The historian reports the man had been rejuvenated no
less than four times during his life but gives no hint of
the rejuvenation process. Being of Hindu extraction, it is
likely the rejuvenation process came from India.

             Vacuum/Hermetically sealed Semiconductors

A couple of years ago, I was told by a friend that a German
research group had discovered a way to amplify electrical
energy extraction from semiconductor circuits enclosed in a
vacuum. The name I was given was Zielinski.
  A few months later, I met an Al Zielinski at the 1994
ISNE conference and asked him about this technology. He had
an 'attitude' and refused to discuss it.

  In hopes he would mention this in his lecture, I attended.
He never mentioned the fr-e energy device but did claim to be
involved with a s-cretive group in Germany who had achieved
practical le-itation and thrust. He refused to provide any
details on either technology at the lecture.
  I bought tickets to his 'workshop' where the claimant
usually is expected to provide some hint of details. The
claim was they had developed a technique which I pinned him
to say involved pulsed high voltage, that would create a
'gravity well' in a preferred area in the vicinity of a mass.
  His explanation was you could attach their equipment to a
heavy mass, such as a b-mb with a 100 pound nose-cone. If
the device was attached to the nose-cone, the full weight
of the 100 pound would 'fall' into the artificial gravity
well in the front of the bomb housing. This would cause
it to fall forward or in whichever direction the nose-cone
was pointing, even to 'fall up against gravity.' In the
ensuing years since this conference, I have heard nothing
more about Zielinsky, his mystery group of this technology,
despite claims by him saying they were about to come to
market.

Part 2.

John Winston.  johnfw@mlode.com
Subject: E-mail From Margaret.                 Aug. 28, 2007.

  Here is something that a person asked me to pass around to
see if someone can help her.

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  Hi John,? this is Margaret. I am looking for a place to live...
has to be in the country (preferably not snow country...lol)
so I can have my animals. (I have 3 dogs and 14 cats...all
fixed)? I have very bad credit (lost my mobile home, etc. back
in 2000 due to my son's addictions...long story...makes me sad
and sick to talk about it). Consequently I need to find
something that is owner financed or something that has been
repossessed etc. because I would never be able to obtain
financing. I would probably not be able to put down a down
payment...maybe a rent to own place.  As you know I live in
New Mexico now but would like to get back to Texas if possible.
Most of my grandkids are in and around Houston. When I leave
this job I will have approximately $900/mo in social security
coming in so will need to find extra work.

  Maybe you could put out the word that I am looking for a
place to live and see if anyone has any suggestions or maybe
you have some thoughts about it you could share with me.? I
had heard there were g-vernment grants for getting homes but
I don't know for sure or how one would inquire about it.

Thanks...Margaret

JW  Margaret's e-mail address is:
The4400PlusOne@aol.com

John Winston.   johnfw@mlode.com
Subject: The Andromedans.                          Aug. 28, 2007.

  Someone has asked me if I would put out some more information
about the Andromedans, so here goes.

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  Alex Collier claims to be a 'c-ntactee' with a r-ce of
Nordic looking humans from the constellation of Andromeda.
He has had a number of co-tact experiences since his childhood
and this developed over the years as he was given more and
more information by his Andromedan contacts. I have analyzed
Alex Collier's information, had phone interviews with him,
and also interverviewed him over a four day period in
September 2005. I have witnessed some physical evidence he
has provided to support his testimony.
  I have also spoken with a direct witness verifying various
aspects of Alex's contact experiences.
  Alex has also revealed that he was the recipient of threats
from
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_secretgov.htm
shadow go-ernment agencies and abruptly chose to stop
disseminating his information in 2000.
  Furthermore,
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_
andromedacom_8.htm
  Alex has give face to face interviews with veteran UFO
researcher Paola Harris who has had the opportunity to examine
the evidence supporting his testimony and concludes he is
credible.
  My conclusion from my investigation so far of Alex is that
he is very credible and very likely a genuine con-actee with
a 'friendly' extraterrestrial r-ce. I therefore recommend
taking the information he has to reveal very seriously. All
those interested in galactic diplomacy and understanding a
variety of extraterrestrial ra-es interacting with humanity,
will find Alex's work to be very helpful.
  I and others sincerely hope that Alex soon resumes his
public life and disseminate the additional information he
has to share about his Andromedan contact experiences, and
the evidence he has prepared to substantiate these.
  The next place to go learn about Alex is his own writing
in terms of his book, Defending S-cred Ground, and his
discontinued journal "Letters From Andromeda". These can be
accessed from the following links:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_0.htm

Part 1.

John Winston.  johfw@mlode.com
Subject: The Andromedans.  Part 2.                        Aug. 28, 2007.

  This attempts to explain why we believe what we believe.  I am not
trying to give any disrespect to Jeh-vah when this person talks about
him.

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  Collier, Alex & the Friendly Andromedans

  Smarter than the Martians and much cooler than the Greys
or Reptoids, Alex's Andromedan Friends bring us Love and Light
  Alex Collier at the Star Family Conference, March 1997
Transcript � 1997 Leading Edge Research Group.

                         Introduction

  Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule and coming to
hear what I have to say. When I talk, I don't like to talk in terms
of re-hashing things that I have talked about for the last three or
four years. So, with your permission, I would just like to move on to
where I basically left off the last time. If you are looking for
information, there is information on the internet. If you really want
it, you can find it, because it's out there.
  I wanted to talk about a couple things. I wanted to give you some
history that has been shared with me. We're going to deal pretty
much with
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_jehovah.htm
  Jehovah and
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_hercolobus.htm
I also want to talk to you about the Hopi prophecy, as well as my own
thoughts about the Hopi prophecy. I also wanted to read you information
from Morenae and Vissaeus themselves.
  I want to start out by saying that I haven't heard all the
speakers here. I am sure they've all been great and have had
something to contribute. In fact, all of you do as well. It's great
to come to some of these things and see the same people. But,
ladies and gentlemen, I am just going to be blatantly honest here.
You know, some of you have stories to tell, and some of you need
to get off your b-tts and start talking yourselves.
  Our planet needs leaders, and a lot of us have made huge
investments, thinking that our politicians are going to be the
leaders, and that they are going to do the right things. The joke
is on us, literally. They have really help to s-rew things up,
and our apathy has compounded the problem.
  So, the next few years are going to be extremely challenging for
all of us, especially here in the U-ited States, and the true
leadership of humanity is you. I am asking you to seriously consider
doing something about it, and to stand up and take the leadership
role. It's not about me. It's not about all the other speakers.
We do this in the hope that you will want to take responsibility
and do what we are doing. Keep passing the torch, so to speak.
  The other thing I wanted to say is that a lot of folks just want
to hear "love and light". They just want to hear how you're "going
to be rescued", how you're going to be "saved", and how everybody
is going to take care of everything so you don't have to do anything.
  If that is really where you're at, you really ought to leave now,
because that is not the message that I have to deliver. There are
both "good" and "bad". We live in a duality, and you have to take
responsibility for both, and you have to live in the midst of both.
The whole idea is to find balance, which is in the middle. We are
all searching for that.
  Until we find it, we all have to participate. A very wise man
once said, "facts do not cease to exist, just because you choose to
ignore them." To those of you who simply want to hear the "love and
light", that's great, but you are out of balance. We need leadership and
people with ideas on how to fix problems, starting with yourself, your
family and the local level. The p-esident and the UN can't sign a peace
of paper and fix everything. It starts here at the local level, and it
starts in the heart. Only you can do that. I can't change your mind; I
can't even tell you what to think. You are going to have to want to
change and open up your perception to find out what is really going on.
This also includes having the courage to really want to know what is
going on. Ok, that's my soapbox. In the six months, pay attention to
all the UFO activity that is going to be occurring on Greenland. The
reason a lot of this will be going on is simply because many of the
r-ces will be entering and leaving at the polar areas.
  I want to talk about J-hovah. There is a lot of talk about Je-ovah,
and this also relates to the Hopi prophecy in an indirect way. I want
to say up front that there are huge risks involved with breaking
apart belief systems, and just because something has been believed
for thousands of years and has been taken for granted does not mean
that it is based on fact.
  We do not have to create or fulfill the book of r-velations, or
fulfill a Hopi prophecy wherein we all are extinguished. I truly
do not understand that kind of belief system. Why believe in
something and pull something to you that will take you all out? Now,
the Andromedan message has been that we are royalty because of our
genetics, which include both the extraterrestrial and the primate.
We are extremely unique. Many rac-s see us as a benefit and some
see us as a threat. I'm not really clear why we represent a
threat to some of them, other than prejudice and bigotry is
there. I have been taught ever since I was a boy that prejudice
is an extraterrestrial perspective. We were taught this type
of behavior, and we have only continued to propagate it generation
after generation. It has never served our r-ce. Never.
   I do not understand why it continues to propagate.

Part 2.

John Winston.  johnfw@mlode.com
Subject: Your Friendly Sasquatch.                           Aug. 29, 2007.

  As you may remember I asked for someone to send me the complete
information from the web site dealing with Sasquatch.  My Internet
friend Harvey F. has sent me that information.

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            JOAN MEETS THE SASQUATCH July 07    PART ONE

  Did you know that Sasquatch can:
  Read
  Write
  Shape-shift
  Voice Project
  Create Infrasound that affects the environment
  De-materialize at will or cause you to have an experience of lost time
so you think they de-materialized.
  Travel 300 miles a day on foot.
  Live in well-lighted underground facilities
  Contact and live with Star People
  Tell us about our past and our future.
  Have lived here longer than the human r-ce.

  Jean-Luc's rendering from Joan's description Jean-Luc's Rendering from
Joan's description showing partial dematerialization

              Dolphin and E.T. Conference & My First Contact

  Subsequently I invited a well-known author and Sasquatch researcher,
Kewaunee L-pseritis, MSc., to speak at my Dolphin and ET Civilization
Conference held in Kona, Hawaii in June 2005.

  After the Conference ended Kewaunee and I went to a neighboring island
to see if I could initiate contact ... in the same way I had begun my
contact with dolphins:
  I would go into their environment, remain alone and quiet, speak to them
t-lepathically and listen for anything they wanted to give me, show me.

  I spent a week in a one-person tent in the jungle, very naive about whom
the Sasquatch really are and what to expect. Later, upon returning home
I began to read books such as Bigfoot Memoirs by Stan J-hnson and
learned that my experience in the jungle was filled with Sasquatch
contact. Their contact is a different type of communication than human
interactions. As a way of announcing their presence and also determining
if I am really interested, they made strong noxious smells one night all
around me. I could not determine the source of that odor - it was so
strong I couldn't sleep. Naively I blamed it on something in the air
from industry. (In these pristine jungles??) Or thought that someone had
left an old smelly sneaker in the jungle somewhere near my tent. They
created or facilitated the sound of trees falling to the ground with
loud crashes. In the morning there were no trees on the ground. They
made sounds like crooning birds, high-pitched, haunting and a bit
spooky, in the middle of the night, while the birds themselves were
quiet. And one night they touched me. In my tiny tent I was asleep, when
I awoke because someone was pushing on my shoulder. Momentarily I
thought I was at home where my friendly donkeys often nudge my
shoulders. Then, realizing where I was, I sat up quickly and opened my
tent flap to look around. No one there. All quiet.

                   Sasquatch Write and Send Gifts

  I began to learn all that I could about the Sasquatch from other
people's experiences. A new friend who lives on the edge of the woods
told me the Sasquatch live near her and she knows them. I sent her one
of my dolphin books to give as a gift to the Sasquatch.

  Two weeks later, I received a gift in return. The Sasquatch had chosen a
rock for me. A heavy quartz rock, weighing 5 pounds with many little
crystal bits within it, gleaming in the light. Along with it came a
piece of crumbled paper. On it was the carefully printed words: FOR
WATER WOMAN.

  Could this be true? I was still doubting the veracity of this.

  It came from the Medicine Woman of the Sasquatch family in a
southeastern location of America near my friend who I will call, Susan
to ensure her privacy. Apparently the great grandmothers of this
Sasquatch family have had contact with w-ite people and learned to read
and write in English although they had their own language as well. This
may not be true of all Sasquatch people, but it is definitely true of
this clan. Having read my book, or at least receiving it, and
understanding who I am, through some inner sensing abilities, they named
me, Water Woman.

  Incredulous as it sounded, I withheld judgment until I could learn more.

                     I Travel To Their Forest Home

  After two months, Susan invited me to visit her at her home. I
immediately said yes to the kind invitation. I had many questions to
ask. Through her stories, I had learned to love and admire this
mysterious race of tall, hairy people called Bigfoot. I chose not to use
that name because it sounded somewhat demeaning. (Their feet are not
large for their height and weight. They are in perfect proportion. They
only are large compared to human feet.)

  When I arrived at my friend's home, she had told the Sasquatch that
Water Woman was coming. There were two more gifts to welcome me. One was
a small, delicately carved white bone image of a thunderbird. It was
from the Sasquatch chief and he called it a Dream Bird. He said the
Little People carved it for him to give to me. The other was a crystal
cluster, given to me by the Medicine Woman. It is beautiful. Looking
like a diamond city with crystal spires of all sizes. I was deeply moved
by these kind gifts. The note that accompanied them brought tears to my
eyes as I read the last line: GOD BLESS YOU WATER WOMAN. They seemed to
know me although we had never met in person. I began to wonder how I
could ever express my gratitude to these special people or what gift I
could give them in exchange. Of course, they asked for nothing.

  Susan is a very kind and giving person. She had enlarged her garden to
allow the harvest for all of the Sasquatch as well as her own family. In
addition, she would cook for them and bring dinners outdoors to a picnic
table in the woods. She would leave it there and return to her house,
allowing the Sasquatch to enjoy the food at their leisure and in
privacy. She even provided large plastic bags for them to take the
leftovers back to the forest.

  At Susan's house there were many farm animals, tame and gentle. They
provided milk, eggs and companionship to Susan and her husband. Since my
plan was to go camping in the woods, Susan gave me quarts of fresh goat
milk to take with me for my cooler. It was delicious beyond anything you
could buy in a store! The lone goat was giving milk although she was not
pregnant or lactating with young. I learned that many m-gical things can
happen out of the ordinary when Sasquatch become your friends.

  Some of Susan's cats had been brought there by the Sasquatch Medicine
Woman who had found them and knew they needed care. The Sasquatch would
leave healing herbs and roots on the kitchen table at night while the
family slept. These herbs were to help any family member or animal on
the farm that were sick. They were usually brewed into a tea by Susan.
Some were for a poultice.

                          The Medicine Wheels

  On the land there were two medicine wheels. One that was made by the
Sasquatch many months before, and a second one that was made the night
before I arrived. Medicine Wheels are not fully understood by most
people. Some say, they symbolize cosmic connections and our relationship
to the sun; others say it represents a symbol of Harmony and Oneness or
about 'walking the Earth with reverence, with healthy minds and inner
peace, honoring the connection between s-irit and nature, by awakening
our memories and manifesting our dreams.The Sasquatch said that these
rock and shell and wood circles, describing the four directions, serve
as Portals. You can go through them -- but be aware! You may not be able
to come back! The Sasquatch call this other world, the Sometime Place.

  I don't know all the meanings and purposes of the Medicine Wheels, but
the Sasquatch sometimes make these Medicine Wheels as a sign that they
had been on the land near you. They often re-arrange them each time they
come by. Since they are mostly nocturnal, these changes occur at night.

                        The Sasquatch Family

  Susan had come to know and love the Sasquatch family of which there were
33 including a few who are pregnant. All of their sp-ritual activities
and understandings were new to Susan who had been raised in a southern,
traditional, re-igious c-urch and was often surprised by the
me-aphysical explanations and behaviors of the Sasquatch families. In
many cases it seemed they were influenced by the Native American
culture, but as time went on and I learned more about the history of
Sasquatch, I began to think that the Sasquatch were most likely the Ones
who influenced the Native peoples in all countries. They said that they
were here before the Ice Age and they were like us at that time.

                    Sasquatch Foot and Hand Prints

  Susan and her husband also had as many as 20 to 25 molds of Sasquatch
feet taken from the mud during the rainy seasons. Some even revealed
toenail imprints because the foot had sunk so deeply into the mud or
because they climbed an embankment and the toes dug deeply into the soil
leaving an impression. Some of the short and fat footprints were of the
Sasquatch children.

Part 1.

John Winston.  johnfw@mlode.com