On Oct 11, 10:07 pm, John Keeney <j_d_kee...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Oct 12, 12:20 am, "M.Butzin" <mfbutzin@NOSPAMdotnet> wrote:

"John Keeney" <j_d_kee...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

How stands the one about civilian rides in military equipment?

RIDES, LOL? in what a F-117? or B-1, B-2, B-52, Certainly not in an Air
Craft "hot" with live rounds or rockets.- Hide quoted text -

Blackhawks, Strikers and attack subs to name a few.
If you will think and use what ever brain cells you might posses there
was an incident a few years back where an attack sub sank a Japanese
ship by surfacing in to it of Hawaii and was the immediate modivation
for the rule. Yea, a civilian was sitting at the wheel but that wasn't
the cause of the accident.

Ah yes, the Greenville.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Greeneville_(SSN-772)
It was a pay off to campaign contributors. Given the long laundry list
of Bush regime fubars, people forgot about the Greenville. The biggest
screw up was when Rummy wanted to reduce the size of the military
since he believed there would be no need to fight a war on two
fronts.