| Subject: Re: Curious spot on Archuleta Mesa, north of Dulce, New Mexico? |
| From: "miso@sushi.com" <miso@sushi.com> |
| Date: 19/01/2009, 08:42 |
| Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51 |
On Jan 18, 9:35 pm, obviouslydelusional
<obviouslydelusio...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 18, 8:59 pm, "m...@sushi.com" <m...@sushi.com> wrote:
Underground legends are really out of hand. What I can't understand is
why they even got started without a shred of evidence that they exist.
Building into hillsides is another story, but still difficult. Tunnels
for sure, but not large expanses. Some of the Nellis buildings have
basements, but that is different from building underground.
There is something in the human psyche that for whatever reason
connects "the underground" with other worlds, often sinister.
Petroglyph sites throughout the southwest are often clustered on
cracked rock faces, where shamans viewed the cracks and crevices as
entryways into alternate realities (no doubt after ingestion of
adequate hallucinogenics). So underground bases and evil government/
aliens are an obvious mental connection. Doesn't make it true though.
Remember the McMartin Preschool molestation allegations in the
1980's? Part of the claims were that abuse, satanic and otherwise,
occurred in secret underground rooms and tunnels beneath the
preschool. Of course none of these underground facilities existed.
There is just some sort of primal human connection between the
underground and sinister.
There ARE some pretty nifty underground bases: Cheyenne Mountain,
Raven Rock in PA, Mt. Weather, Culpepper and so on. But they are
underground to survive nukes, not necessarily to hide them (not very
possible in these days of the Internet and Google Earth. So if you
just want to HIDE something, a very large warehouse in a nondescript
industrial park would work just fine, is cost effective and can be
easily shut down and moved if necessary.
The boosters of underground bases have NO idea of the complications
involved in building habitable underground facilities. One could
suppose this adds to the overall entertainment value though.
You have John Lear talking about underground railroads to Area 51. I
always ask, where did the put the dirt? I've done a bit of site
planning for earth moving, and job number is where do you put the
dirt, i.e. balance cut and fill And just when did they dig the cores
to study the earth to drill these tunnels. I've watched them pit and
trench just to build ON the dirt, let alone under the dirt. For
complexity, just look at the "Big Dig."
Building into a mountain is different than building under your average
flat spot in the desert. Again, I've watched the geologists do their
thing. The hills are different from the valley. The valley is often
dirt eroded from the hill. That's what the rocky outcropping in on the
damn hill and not on the valley floor. So a mountain is special
because it has survived as a contiguous chunk of dirt It is much more
stable than the desert floor.
At least Bob Lazar had the wisdom to put his secret facility in the
side of a mountain, which is much more believable. Of course, the
story is still dubious, but at least he isn't claiming there is an
underground railroad from Vegas to Area 51, which is just nuts. Hell,
why fly the Janets if you have this railroad.