Re: Mysterious Black Box at Rachel Area 51 Gate

On Jun 17, 9:45�pm, "m...@sushi.com" <m...@sushi.com> wrote:

On Jun 17, 5:52�am, <nos...@notreal.com> wrote:

In article <a42fc523-2418-4f1a-b7bc-
ce326b941...@i28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, m...@sushi.com says...

On Jun 15, 12:40�am, <nos...@notreal.com> wrote:

In article <1e476a58-60a7-4513-8a6c-
f5d26e89e...@h28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, rch49...@cox.net says...

I am sure somebody here would know what this box is. �It is on the
right side of the Rachel Area 51 gate. �It is attached with plastic
ties. �I noticed it Sunday. �It was not there a few weeks ago. �It has
not wires or any source of power that I could see. �Any guesses?

http://theparadiserancharea51.blogspot.com/

Does this look familiar ;-).

http://www.smithgear.com/dk-wma-3000.html

If the link doesn't work, try doing a search for a

Dakota WMA-3000 Wireless Motion Alert Driveway Alarm Alert Motion Sensor

I suspect there are other brands as well.

I hope they install more of these. It will give me an excuse to buy
the receiver

I guess I am not doing very well in the posting department. �I just went
back to the original link to see who the "they" were and noticed that
someone else had said what I did a day earlier, and that it had been
clearly posted below the picture . �I only looked at the picture and
recognized the box as being like my neighbors, and went quickly looking
for a link without reading everything (sigh). �Sorry for the
duplication.

Rock Block Canyon has real (Qualtron) IR detectors. There is talk on
the Motorola document for X band people detectors that it is possible
to walk slowly and not trip IR sensors. Reality? Who knows.

Somewhere I have a sample of the pyro film used in those detectors.
You need a high impedance amp to sense it, but otherwise it is pretty
simple stuff. The people detection is done on a change in reading
basis. In the dark ages, it was done with analog filters. I bett today
is is done with a uP and ADC.

I designed a flame detector with the sample I was given. More like a
lighter detector in that you needed a sudden change. The really funny
thing is the piezo igniter was really easy to detect, much more than
the flame. Take the amp, disconnect the sensor, add some wire, and it
will sense the ignitor.

Having dealt with some gambling machine manufacturer, they use piezo
ignitors as part of their test suite. I hear a lot of gamblers chain
smoke. ;-) They also put spikes on the AC to simulate a vacuum cleaner
(motor) turning on and off.

Every once in a while you read about a gambling machine indicating a
payout should be given, but the house checks circuitry inside to see
if it a real payout, then denies it. Probably the false reading is due
to some glitch, or that is what they tell you.


I'm not sure what you are talking about since you were the one that
identified the device.

I have the manual and other documents if anyone is really interested.
Since it is proprietary, I can't upload the data to the net.

I think the back gate is really more for show than security. It is
such a drive to get to Area 51 from the back gate that nobody in their
right mind would bust through it. Talk about a choke point, you need
to drive through a canyon to get to the base.

If you hang out at the back gate, you can spot the Rachel residents
going to the base. I don't know if there are Rachel residents that
presently work at the base. The one I discovered is dead, though his
car lives on.

If you think about it, just how would you sell a used car in Rachel
except to someone in town. So Joe's Suzuki became Dave's. I have no
idea who drives it now after Dave's death.

Anyway, back to the back gate, I am pretty much convinced it is only
local and those from the TTR that use the back gate. I don't think
there is any sane way to get from the TTR to Area 51 except through
Cedar Pass, down the ET Highway, then through the back gate. Your only
other choice is the Mercury gate, which is a long ride.


I first thought that the person who identified the monitor was miso
and I gave him credit on another site for identifying it.  Now I can
see it was nos who first gave me the info.  Thanks