| Subject: Re: Area 51 burn out |
| From: "miso@sushi.com" <miso@sushi.com> |
| Date: 20/08/2009, 01:44 |
| Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51 |
On Aug 19, 4:39 pm, obviouslydelusional
<obviouslydelusio...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:34 pm, Desert Shadow <rch49...@cox.net> wrote:
Very well put. I understand the "14' year old and the dudes out to
make a buck at the conference or with their site, but what about some
of the so called "original researchers" who have just vanished? Peter
Merlin and a few others still can be found but many serious
researchers have just vanished! I believe Glenn referred to them as
the "council of elders" recently. From what I see around these parts,
there are very few that actually go out and "dig around". I read a
lot of people fooling around with Google Earth, but that is definitely
limited. I just don't think the "shelf life" for researching a
facility that does such a good job at keeping things secret is very
long. Just not interesting enough for many individuals I would
imagine.
Remember that the glory days of most of the "serious guys" (and by
that I mean black aircraft aficionados) were the early to mid 1990s.
It was during this period Popular Science, Wired, AvWeek and more all
had major stories about Area 51. Books were written. What caught
everyones imagination was that virtually NOTHING was known about the
place. Maybe there WERE aliens!! So much was a mystery.
Now welcome to the new millennium. We have Google Earth with high res
coverage of most of the Nellis Range. Private websites like DLR can
hire out for even higher resolution satellite pics. Flightaware
tracks Janet flights. Environmental impact statements detailing what
happens where. Quality night vision stuff is cheap. There is
fantastic radio scanning and DF gear. This has all pushed back the
boundaries of the unknown to the point where many have lost interest.
People aren't gonna go squat out in the desert for days on end if
there aren't aliens. And there aren't. There are only running tracks
(and even those get overthought!).
That said, there are people who still have interest in the area as
sort of a hobby. People like Gary or Peter Merlin, and they do
excellent work. But these folks aren't going to be posting all that
they know, as it could throttle their resources. So those that do
know stuff are also smart enough not to broadcast the sensational
items, thus killing the golden goose. That not burnout, that's low
profile. And Groom's all about being under the radar, doncha think?
Actually I post most of what I know. There is stuff I don't publish,
but when someone else figures it out, my webpage in waiting gets
published with similar stuff except going back further in time. For
instance, I did that with the internet flight tracking. I suppose I
could spill the beans about how I tracked untrackable aircraft now
that the particular service went (or had to) go out of business. I've
noticed the correction to the trunk system that I publish here
mysteriously get added to other websites. I could sit on corrected
information, but I don't. Sometimes I get stuff sent to me with the
instructions not to publish.
Incidentally, I don't think NV gear is all that cheap. Gen 3 is still
pretty pricey. Most of the stuff you see in stores is gen 1 or worse
yet, gen 0 as some people call it. DFing those heavily modulated trunk
signals isn't all that easy. Someone built me a really nice yagi cut
for the federal UHF, which is how I did some of the corrections.
However, some sites are not clean enough to trust the results of the
yagi. I'm pretty sure at least one of the site locations you see on
the net is wrong, but I don't publish anything until I'm very sure of
my results.
The deal is you have to ask yourself "are you having fun." If it's no
longer fun, don't do it. I find climbing Tikaboo with all that gear to
be a hell of a challenge. You make it back to town and you feel you
accomplished something. Camping out and listening to tests on the
radio is a hell of a lot more fun than listening to military cargo
planes land at the local airport.
Getting back to NV, I don't think we will be at the point to watch a
flight with NV gear for a long time. You need a lot of magnification
to see the test aircraft, and magnification means less light. The NV
image would be noise under most condition.