Re: Area 51 burn out

On Aug 19, 7:46�pm, obviouslydelusional
<obviouslydelusio...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 19, 5:44�pm, "m...@sushi.com" <m...@sushi.com> wrote:

Actually I post most of what I know. There is stuff I don't publish,
but when someone else figures it out, my webpage in waiting gets
published with similar stuff except going back further in time. For
instance, I did that with the internet flight tracking. I suppose I
could spill the beans about how I tracked untrackable aircraft now
that the particular service went (or had to) go out of business. I've
noticed the correction to the trunk system that I publish here
mysteriously get added to other websites. I could sit on corrected
information, but I don't. Sometimes I get stuff sent to me with the
instructions not to publish.


"Actually I post most of what I know." �Yeah, yeah, that's what you
WANT them to think...uh,...isn't it?? �Please don't destroy the image
of the Nellis Range Uuber Spook.

Incidentally, I don't think NV gear is all that cheap. Gen 3 is still
pretty pricey. Most of the stuff you see in stores is gen 1 or worse
yet, gen 0 as some people call it. DFing those heavily modulated trunk
signals isn't all that easy. Someone built me a really nice yagi cut
for the federal UHF, which is how I did some of the corrections.
However, some sites are not clean enough to trust the results of the
yagi. I'm pretty sure at least one of the site locations you see on
the net is wrong, but I don't publish anything until I'm very sure of
my results.


Compared to the era I was referring to (early 90's), the NV available
at your local Costco is great. �Not to mention eBay. �But screw NV,
you can get a kick-ass thermal imager off eBay for $4 grand or less.
And while that may sound like a healthy amount of money, for the
previously mentioned "serious folks", it's not. �And then, for
example, �there are all the wonderful new programmable microprocessors
not available back then (PICs, Aurdinos, Stamps, etc) that can be made
into standalone dataloggers �capable of being hidden in a hollowed out
phony rock and left by the side of a road for a month. �Why should the
Cammodudes have all the fun of keeping track of who goes where, when?
The mind reels at the possibilities to be a real PITA.

The deal is you have to ask yourself "are you having fun." If it's no
longer fun, don't do it. I find climbing Tikaboo with all that gear to
be a hell of a challenge. You make it back to town and you feel you
accomplished something. Camping out and listening to tests on the
radio is a hell of a lot more fun than listening to military cargo
planes land at the local airport.


As you mention, having fun is what it's all about. �The reason
previous guys "vanished" is that it ceased being fun. �Campbell is a
good case in point. �He got bored with it and moved on to other
interests. �And it was probably healthier for him.


I stumbled upon some really cheap data loggers on the net.
http://www.onsetcomp.com/
Of course, what you want is just simple On/Off data logging, not
temperature, but the price is right. You can sink a lot of time
rolling your own gear. I only roll what I can't buy.

All these imaging schemes are hampered by distance. They just detect
IR, which is subject to the same constraints as visible light
regarding magnification. There are some advantages since a plane in
the sky is significantly hotter than the background IR, so you might
be able to detect a plane in flight, but you could probably do that
with radio waves and GPS synchronized hardware.

I don't recall if I mentioned this, but even cheap NV gear picks up
blinker lights on aircraft. When you look towards the Nellis range,
you see the flashing lights from the air traffic flying over route 95.
If you camp out along route 95 and look east to the base, you see very
little flashing light since traffic is much less frequent.

If you never saw it, I did a NV video of the base.
http://www.lazygranch.com/a51pan.htm#nvpano
I should probably do this again, but do stills and log the vectors.

One thing to consider is IR LEDs can be used as IR sensors. IR leds
are quite cheap, so making an array is not a big issue. I've seen
microbolometer components on the net.
http://www.electrophysics.com