Subject: Is Bigfoot Real?
From: "John Winston" <johnfw@mlode.com>
Date: 30/12/2011, 06:22
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51

Subject: Is Bigfoot Real? 
Dec. 29, 2011.

  A lot of people are talking about Bigfoot.  Here is some information on 
the being.

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Phantoms and Monsters
http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/

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  * The Bigfoot Paradox 2: What Do They Already Know? <#1>
  * Just the Facts? Race and the PSU Sex Scandal -- Snakes in the Head
    -- Lost Time and 'Greys' <#2>
  * The Fed's War Against Bloggers <#3>

The Bigfoot Paradox 2: What Do They Already Know?
http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/PhantomsAndMonstersAPersonalJourney/%7E3/GdZuZ5eu9Dk/bigfoot-paradox-2-what-do-they-already.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email

Posted: 17 Nov 2011

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-76xVbOqGsVs/TsV7MNF1bAI/AAAAAAAAaqE/9IexwrtQK_g/s1600/bigfoot66.JPG

Ufologist and Cryptozoologist Nick Redfern recently published an
extraordinary anecdote that described a friend's encounter with a
supposed Bigfoot creature
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/11/a-taos-terror/#more-8644
near Tao, New Mexico. The encounter with the Bigfoot was unusual in itself
but the abrupt appearance of a m-litary-style helicopter without lights
heightened the strangeness. The helicopter then concentrated a spotlight
on the beast. The creature "suddenly took off ' at a real speed,' with
the helicopter in hot pursuit. Both disappeared from sight as the
helicopter’s light grew fainter and utter darkness returned."/

Redfern's friend commented /"what was the helicopter doing flying with
its lights off in the skies of Northern New Mexico in the dead of night?
What was the nature of the strange beast that had apparently set its
sights upon him? And what on earth was the connection between the two?"

Was this actually a mi-itary helicopter attempting to captured a live
Bigfoot or, as Redfern suggests, action initiated by another private
group? I have previously posted narratives describing the go-ernment's
apparent attempt to conceal the existence of this creature.

In Cowlitz County, Washington at one of Ray Crowe's Western Bigfoot
Meetings, someone brought up the topic of corpses of Sasquatch after
the May 18, 1980 eruption of Mt. St. Helens in Washington State. The
witness heard of two Sasquatch the Army Corps of Engineers had taken out
of the volcanic devistation...two months after the initial blast.

Terry Reams heard of a dredging operation of the Cowlitz River and two
bodies were found in the sand (probably same case?). A chopper flew them
off.

Joe Beelart offered that the crane doing the dredging was from the
Manatowaka Company and that the bodies were found two weeks after the
Mt. St. Helen's blast of May 18, 1980. He suggested that somebody might
want to track down the company and find out who was working the shift
that the bodies had been found on.

During a tour of the devastation by helicopter in 1985, the Vietnam
veteran helo pilot mentioned a similar tale to Bobbie Short saying there
were mil-tary helos that choppered out nets full of burned and semi
burned elk, deer, bear and something with hairy charred arms hanging out
of the drop nets. They were taken to a common pit where the bodies were
burned to avoid disease and contamination of the rivers.

Fred Bradshaw also reported dead Bigfoot bodies near Mt. St. Helens to
the International Bigfoot Society.

"My father worked for Weyerhauser Co. at Green Mountain , WA, east of
Vancouver. The site has security on their roads to check on the
equipment and check closed areas to keep people out. He was working the
day Mt. St. Helens blew up. He was at a meeting in Kelso, WA, and as he
was a supervisor, when Mt. St. Helens blew it's side out, all heck cut lose.

My father was sent back to Green Mountain right away but like most he
wasn't allowed to go very far because of the mud slide coming down the
river. He did get to the town of Toutle, WA, on highway 504 off I-5. He
and his crew were placed at different spots to watch mud flow and of
course help people get out of the blast zone after the major blow up. He
was sent to the area of S_irit Lake to keep people out.

When the second major blow up of the mountain came, my father and the
other guy with him reported in, and they got out of there. He was then
placed in charge of the helicopter landing zone. It was his job to help
keep people out of the landing zone and let aid crews in so they could
care for injured.

Later on, when all the people were out, the National Guard was brought
in to clean up. They hauled dead animals out that they placed in piles;
deer in one, elk in another and so on. They were covered up with tarps
and later burned.

But my father was placed in charge of one pile of dead that were covered
and no one was allowed to go near. Armed U.S. National Guard personal
were around this pile, and one day when they were going to move this
group of bodies, and my father was very close to it and was told to keep
his mouth closed. And when the tarps were removed he saw the creatures,
some badly burned and some not. They placed them in a net and lifted
them into a truck and covered it over. My father asked a guardsmen what
will they do with them and he said study them or what ever...he didn't
want to know. He said it's like other things you don't ask, and off they
went . AND NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. My father and the rest
were debriefed and sent home.

Below are several links to interesting accounts of gover=ment interest
and encounters with Sasquatch:

The Nightstalker of Edwards AFB
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/stories/nightsta.htm

Sasquatch and the Edwards Air F-rce Base Surveillance
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/stories/edwards.htm

Bigfoot Recovered - Injured in Forest Fire
http://sasquatch-pg.net/sasquatch-recovered-fromfire.html

Not long after I had posted Oh-Mah - The 'Boss of the Woods'
http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2008/11/oh-mah-boss-of-woods-in-northern.html
in November 2008, I received an email from a man in southern Washington
who stated that he had heard stories from Yakima native people in
reference Oh-Mah or Sasquatch after the Mt. St. Helen's eruption. The
most prominent account was that of a large male Oh-Mah that was badly
burned, but still alive, that took refuge in an area east of the
devastation near traditional tribal lands. He was told that gover-ment
agents in mil-tary gear captured the Oh-Mah and airlifted it to an
undisclosed location. I have no way of knowing if this is a true account
but it does seem to suggest that there was an effort made to take
advantage of the eruption in order to capture specimans either dead or
alive.

On the flip side, legendary Bigfoot researcher John Green has responded
to the contention that the governme-t is hiding a carcass of a Sasquatch
that was retrieved from the ruins of the eruption of Mt. St. Helens:

/"I’m a pretty seasoned researcher, half a century of it, and I have
never encountered the slightest evidence suggesting that any level of
governm-nt knows anything about Sasquatch, let alone having whisked
corpses away by helicopter. Nonsense."/ - John Green

The notion that the U.S. Gover-ment would attempt to procure a
Sasquatch, living or dead, and not tell anyone doesn't seem too
far-fetched to me. I'm not a consp-racy theorist by nature but I am
fairly certain that there is a he-luva lot of extraordinary and
anomalous information that is withheld from the citizenry.

There is proof that the U.S. Government recognizes that these creatures
do exist somewhere at in some capacity.

Newly unearthed State Department documents confirm for the first time
U.S. Gov-rnment's belief that the Yeti roamed the mountains of Nepal in
the 1950s, a finding that shocked federal officials including the
archivist who discovered the papers.

Long written off as a myth, the documents provided by the National
Archives show that officials in the State Department, Foreign Service,
and U.S. Embassy in Kathmandu, Nepal, not only believed in "Yeti," but
endorsed rules for American expeditions to follow when hunting the
creature.
http://www.archives.gov/global-pages/larger-image.html?i=/historical-docs/doc-content/images/yeti-expedition-nepal-foreign-service-memo-l.jpg&c=/historical-docs/doc-content/images/yeti-expedition-nepal-foreign-service-memo.caption.html

Archivist Mark Murphy said he couldn't believe his eyes when he
discovered the long-ignored papers written at the end of the E-senhower
administration. "I thought I was seeing things," he said. "These
documents show that finding the Yeti was a big deal in the 1950s. It
goes to show the gov-rnment was taking this seriously."

How seriously?

One foreign service dispatch from the Embassy of New Delhi dated April
16, 1959 describes the many American expeditions involved in
mountaineering and monster hunting in Nepal.

"American resources in the last two years have been concentrated on
efforts to capture the abominable snowman," the record reads.

In the July 1975, /The Washington Star-News/ /"the Army Corps of
Engineers has officially recognized Sasquatch, the elusive and supposed
legendary creature of the Pacific Northwest mountains. Also known as Big
Foot, Sasquatch is described in the just-published Washington
Environmental Atlas as being a very large animal of 8 to 10 feet tall,
weighing up to 1000 pounds with feet measuring up to 24 inches long. The
width of the footprint is up to 10 inches wide, covered with long hair
except for face and hands, and having a distinctive human-like form."/

Part 1.

John Winston.  johnfw@mlode.com