Subject: Cancelled Trip.
From: "John Winston" <johnfw@mlode.com>
Date: 09/02/2012, 18:30
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51

Subject:  Cancelled Trip. 
Feb. 9, 2012.

  Well it appears that the major part of the trip on the Spacecraft
called Neptune has been cancelled.  I'm sorry if you went to a lot
of effort to try to go but didn't get to go.  Here is the latest from
Grener.

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Subject: AAM_and_Grener_on_Why_the_First_Plan_Didn't_Work_and_W?
What_They_Propose_Instead_|_The_2012_Scenario
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:19:31 -0800

OK, I've had a discussion with Arch-ngel Michael and Grener of
Ashira through Linda for this past perhaps 40 minutes.
Here is the audiotape of my discussion with Ar-hangel Michael and
Grener. The transcript will follow.

Grener has said that there were three reasons why the trip could not
go forward as planned, but will go forward in smaller groups instead.
One was difficulties around the safety of those we leave behind. One
was the unmanageableness of a large group. And the third was the
fact that many people who were coming still have things to clear if
their trip was to be successful.
I think what they want to do is to select from the larger group those
people who are ready and bring aboard other people after they've
had a chance to clear a few more vasanas, as we all will do in the
weeks and months ahead. But of course I don't know for sure. This
is just my guess.

At first I asked to have our own small group go and was told that a
different group was going, I think, today.
I said that we lightworkers needed some visible, tangible proof to
give to others, both colleagues, family and friends, to show that this
scenario is true.
If we can't all go at once at this moment and show it's true, then at
least bring back that tangible proof to others.
Archa-gel Michael said that the small group going today would
furnish that proof. But how many times in the past have I been a
nice guy and allowed someone else to overrule me only to find
that the people sent can't write, or can't write clearly, or don't
want to share photographs, or don't want to risk exposing their
names. So what looked like a well-laid plan can go completely off
the rails. I don't want that to happen this time.
Even though my inner voice said it would look egotistical for
me to say I want to go, I know I can write clearly and well and
convey what I see on the ships. And I know I will share my own
photographs freely and allow my name to be used. So I know that
I will bring back proof that can be distributed freely.
So I pushed hard to be allowed to go on this trip - not necessarily
for long, but for just long enough to demonstrate the reality of
this whole business which so far we only know on paper.
I asked that this happen as fast as possible so that we don't
lose the momentum and our grip on the ball to the naysayers.
Once the flood of recrimination comes in, we may lose the
initiative. And they agreed that they would act with despatch.
So I apologize (and Grener apologized as well) to all the people
slated to go on the trip who let go of shifts and cancelled
appointments and to others who told their loved ones they were
going, only to reap the whirlwind in response.

I'll go aboard the ships, just not in the time frame we planned
on. I don't know how people will be selected. Grener said he
knew your schedules and would bring you aboard at a time
that would fit into them. No, I don't get the sense that you
have to be on a list to go, but I think you have to have agreed
that you want to go.
And the black limousines! The galactics - two-seater and
four-seater space vehicles can assume whatever shape they
want and can be made to look like cars and then shift into
a space-travelling configuration. So, no, they are not actual  -
black limousines.

I will see that the galactics don't use humorous descriptions
like that in the future which people hear, including other
galactics, and use to denigrate the effort. When Grener
used the phrase space bikes, I asked him not to but to give
me a generic and neutral term for whatever he was referring
to.
We'll have to do that from now on, I fear - avoid humorous
descriptions and concentrate on clarity.
I personally am satisfied that if I can be permitted to go
up onto the Neptune in a timely fashion and bring back photos,
artifacts and other evidence of the reality of the ships and
the galactics that I can steer my way through the
recrimination that may arise without needing to go off
into exile.

The rest you can listen to on the tape or read when Ellen
and Ruth have a transcript for us.

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