Subject: Jim Sparks, Abductee. 
Feb. 20, 2012.

  Here are the things that person found while being abducted for 19 years.

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Jim Sparks:
Interview transcript

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/jim_sparks_interview_transcript_en.html__
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Jim Sparks and The Keepers
A video interview with Jim Sparks
Las Vegas, June 2007

Shot, edited and directed by Kerry C-ssidy and Bill R-an

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Start of interview

Bill Ry-n: Jim Sparks, we're delighted to be talking with you today. I'm 
Bill
Rya-; I'm half of the team with Kerry Ca-sidy that's Project Camelot. One
of the things that we do is we present different jigsaw puzzle pieces of
what is a very large picture. There are a lot of people out there watching
this video now, who'll be as interested in putting these together as you are
and we are.

Jim Sparks: Okay.

B: Now, we're talking to you today because from what we understand you have
one or two possible significant pieces, to present to people, so that they
can fit it into the puzzle if they can, so we can fit it into the puzzle if 
we
can. We're speaking to you because you are what has been described in
the UFO community as a fully conscious multiple abductee. That's the 
shortest
sentence I can fit it all in.

J: That's a good way to put it.

B: Could you put your own description on to that? What do you feel your
contribution to this puzzle is?

J: In brief, interaction has been going on for approximately 19 years. The
first six years were ambiguous, no frame of reference, couldn't understand.
I would say that would be akin to what most abductees go through. Except
again it was 95%, 98% total conscious recall that it came with.

B: At a guess, how many abductions have you experienced?

J: Hundreds.

B: Hundreds?

J: Many hundreds.

B: Many hundreds? That's a lot!

J: Many hundreds.

B: Would you say, once again, in your experience that this is likely to have
been exceptional, or are many abductees also having experienced hundreds
of abductions, but they don't remember any of them? Is that possible?

J: I think part of the latter is there's a lot of truth based in that 
because
I've seen mass abductions with hundreds of people and in these mass
abductions the people's memories are taken away towards the end. Primarily
in the mass abductions that I've seen, they primarily involve what are
commonly referred to as Grays. They're getting environmental lessons.
That's over a 19 year period.

B: What do you mean environmental lessons? What do you mean by that?

J: An awareness of the acute situation we're in with the environment.
Primarily what they do in these abduction scenarios, particularly the
mass ones with this particular agenda, which is global, is to heighten
the awareness of how beautiful the planet is and how beautiful the
planet was, by different sorts of frames of pictures for them to get, and
then they gradually turn sour as to what we're doing to the planet.
They're informed that the planet is dying. I believe they're also
getting what I know I've gotten, an assignment, so to speak. You
don't have to do it. They receive this assignment in the subconscious,
and in the conscious frame of mind. The conscious frame memory
is taken away before they go back. I think it'll reach the point of
critical mass globally with this message, whereas as they go
around their normal life, some may have fragmented memories of
the abduction, some may not have any at all. We're talking tens
of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or maybe into the millions
or more people globally.

B: Globally?

J: Globally. But it'll get to the point where it's critical mass, where
the timing, if the timing's just perfect, I think a lot more memory
will start coming out as to what you're supposed to do. So there
seems to be a drive with abductees....

B: Is this part of a long, term program?

J: Yes.

B: A major long, term program?

J: Yes, one particular agenda, yes.

B: And the agenda, this is just my clarification of what you are saying,
the agenda is an educational one? Except that they have a particular
style of  teaching that may not be like the kind of thing we want to
put our own kids through?

J: It's no doubt teaching, but its not a teaching lesson, its actually to
take action. Now I've seen this flower in myself, with consciousness
of what's going on. I've seen this flower in an individual that I happened
to see, and interact with intimately on board for a couple of hours,
and then seeing this individual here at home over the years, getting
this environmental message the way the rest of them did. Not
commenting on I know who he is.... and we befriended each other, and
I can go on with that... but we're friends.

B: Even though he had no memory of his experience, you kept quiet
about it, noticing what had happened and then you saw him change
his attitudes, change his behavior, and start to take action with certain
projects....

J: Absolutely.

B: You saw... which was EXACTLY what their program was designed for.

J: Exactly. And then interestingly enough, there were innuendos throughout
the early stages of our interaction here, where he did share with me, I
remember this, or I got this, or he had fragmented memories, like most
abductees, and I had to bite my tongue knowing who the person was.
Well, now he knows who I am and is fully bloomed. That is a major
agenda.

Now for me personally as most abductees, but it was a six year period,
of living h-ll, because I didn't have a frame of reference. I didn't
understand what was going on. They didn't make anything clear. So I
don't want to say I was trained. I don't likeI haven't found the proper
word for it. Kind of like an alien boot camp.

B: Indoctrinated, would that be a better word?

J: Yes! So you know how to behave. Bottom line. Because you're
dealing with creatures that are non-human intelligence. They're
ten to a hundred times faster in the mind. They've got the high
technology. They can travel time, they can span the universe with
no time passing. They can work with other dimensions and these
people or beings are so far removed from what we are, particularly
socially. They definitely don't have any social skills as far as
we're concerned. They traumatize you. Interaction is trauma in
every way, shape and form. It's a better thing that the memory
is taken away from people, and maybe it comes back to them
slowly, so they can cope and deal with it.

But in that first six years it was, ambiguity, paradox, and learning
symbols. The point that there is that I had no frame of reference
to understand what was going on. The second set of six years
or seven years was when I was turned loose on board, where I
got to see agendas. Now I knew how to behave.  A, I wasn't gonna
k-ll them. B, I wasn't gonna go around tearing up the ship. C, I
wasn't going to be disruptive, I wasn't gonna... as I was that first
six years. I was paralyzed for the most part. So now I got to see
things that they were doing.

B: Now, this is very strange because it's like after this time,
after you had been a rebel in their terms, it's like you didn't
want to cooperate. You were yelling and screaming at them.
You were angry. You were outraged...

J: Right.

B: ...that these things were happening to you against your will,
but then they seemed to take you into their confidence,
almost to help them with their program. I mean this is a
paradox.

J: Yes, but it was necessary. I mean you really... I'm not
justifying them.
I don't claim... and you've heard me say this before, and I'm gonna
say it now, I don't claim to embrace alien culture. I have a
healthy suspicion of all their motives at all times. I don't just
swallow it and say, "That's how it is". But I let it play itself out.
It's the only wise thing to do. What I'm finding is it is playing
itself out and I am seeing signs and they are positive, they're
not negative.

B: Would it be fair then to describe this as a kind of positive
brainwashing? That's my take on what you seem to be having.
And once again that's a paradox as well, because one doesn't
really associate the term "brainwashing" as being anything
positive at all.

J: Of course.

B: But there is something about this being against people's free
will.

J: Right.

B: The intention seems to be positive because the idea is to
shock or push people into taking more responsibility for our
planet and our environment than we have been doing. Is this
just because they're purely altruistic or is there some
self-interest involved?

J: There's definitely self-interest and there's definitely benefits
to us.
But addressing the brainwashing aspect of it, clearly it's there.
Clearly it's forced upon one. Now, that's something that took
me several years to grasp why it had to be that way. Because
they are so far removed from what we are. We're talking about
species of non-human intelligence that are literally thousands
of years in some cases, ahead of us technically. Thousands of
years ahead of already figuring things out and, who have
e-olved. They've joined, so to speak, the galactic neighborhood.
They've conquered things like de-th, some of them have. Their
life spans are phenomenal, and I think it's also transformed
physically as that wears out to another body form.

B: That's what we've heard.

Part 1.

John Winstib,   johnfw@mlode.com