Subject: The Consp----- Journal. Part 2.
From: "John Winston" <johnfw@mlode.com>
Date: 14/05/2012, 15:39
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51

Subject: Comsp----- Journal.  Part 2. 
May 13, 2012.

  This talks about Ultra-Terrestrials.

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Could the economy function?

Most of the time you're using credit cards, debit cards or you'll
be getting money out of an ATM. If you've lost the power, the
computers in the bank that keep track of our money will have
back-up power, but not the ATMs or the machines in the shops. So
if you had a big power outage, it wouldn't be long before we'd
be trying to find cash.

What are the chances that something like this will happen soon?

A recent paper [published in February in the journal Space Weather]
tried to estimate the chance of having a repeat of 1859 and came up
with a value of a 12% chance of it happening in the next 10 years.
That's quite a high risk.

What can be done?

The biggest step is to make more and more people aware of the
issue, so they're thinking about it in the way they design things.
That's the most critical part.

I think it's also getting a better picture of these very violent past
events. We'd like to find out more about the scope of those events.
We have a lot of old data from past events that's on paper - in
newspapers and so on - and we're busy trying to find ways to
turn it into digital.

We had a recent flare-up of publicity in March thanks to a
solar storm that didn't really amount to much. Is this sort of
coverage a good thing or a bad thing?

It makes such a good scare story, and it's entertaining. It was
a mildly interesting event, certainly, but not at all big-league
stuff. It makes people think, "Oh it's nothing really," so experts
like myself are in danger of being in the crying-wolf situation.
That's something that is a concern to me, personally.

Source: LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-solar-storms-

- THEY ARE ALL AROUND US DEPARTMENT -

Exposing the Ultra-Terrestrial Menace!
A Shocking Interview With "Mr UFO", Timothy Green Beckley on
the new book E-il Empire of the ETs and the Ultra-Terrestrials.

1. Could you tell us about the concept behind your new book,
Ev-l Empire Of The ETs and the Ultra-Terrestrials, and what writers
are behind this gem as well?

Beckley - I guess it sort of continues with a thought pattern that
started with the book Round Trip To H-ll In A Flying Saucer in
which I give evidence that the "force" behind the UFO phenomenon
is mostly - but not exclusively - negative. That is that the New
Age "bliss bunny" notion that every celestial visitor has our
best interest at heart is horrendously naive.

In Trilogy Of The Unknown published about two months ago, we
presented the work of a mysterious gentlemen, Michael X, who had
started out lecturing at contactee festivals on the West Coast,
preaching sermons of sweetness and light and the arrival of the
Space Brotherhood, only to end his career when men representing
themselves as friendly space beings tried to a-sassinate him in
the California Desert outside of Palm Springs. This book gets
into misplaced alien artifacts on the Moon and a warning by "Mr
ET" to keep our distance and stay away - OR ELSE!. There are
also sections on N-zi constructed flying discs and reptilians
holding up underground at the North and South Poles. A pretty
heavy UFOlogical work load I would say.

Now with the Evi- Empire of the ETs and Ultra-Terrestrials our team
of trusted investigators which includes Brad and Sherry Steiger,
the late Dr. Karla Turner, Tim R. S-artz and Sean C-steel throw
the cosmic gauntlet down to remind readers that though some
see the phenomenon through goo-goo eyes in terms of
benevolent aliens the truth is that the force behind the mysterious
flying objects is more like graduates of an A-yan charm school
that has its basis in mutilations, abductions, painful medical
exams, a-al probes and extreme mind control patterns.

2. Please tell us the story of Karla Turner for those who might
new to the field of Ufology to keep her light shining please.

Beckley - For eleven years I was editor in chief of the now
defunct newsstand publication UFO Universe . During the more
than a decade I put together the magazine, I had the opportunity
to work with some of the world's greatest UFO and p-ranormal
writers. I published a number of articles by Dr Turner whose
work, I felt, was never appreciated enough by those in the UFO
community who wanted to paint a sweetness and light image of
the aliens seemingly for the public's benefit.

A well educated, soft spoken, woman, Dr Turner's life was
turned around when she allowed her students to do a dissertation
on either UFOs or Bigfoot in an attempt to show them there was
no evidence for the existence of such "imaginary beings." A
series of "coincidental" proceedings in her life and that of
family members, made her think twice as they were ultimately
cast downward in a spiral of maddening UFO related events. This
included confronting paranormal beings which we have come to
identify as "aliens", though their true origins remain a matter
of dispute and perplexity. -vil Empire of the ETs and Ultra-
Terrestrials, includes a adaptation of her UFOlogical diary
which Dr Turner originally released under the title Into The
Fringe. At the time of its initial release the manuscript was
shunned by a field seeking less combative explanations of the
UFO and alien phenomenon. In the E-il Empire her work is more or
less collaborated by our team of authors. They agree that we
should not conclude without a great deal of further
investigations, that we are dealing with a-gelic, humanoid
beings from outer space, that there is a lot more going on under
our very noses that needs to be thoroughly sniffed out before we
openly welcome these beings into our hearts and minds, because
like a tiger they can easily turn on their masters and do serious
damage to our bodies and our s-uls!

3. Who are the Ultra-Terrestrials and where did that term come
from, what are their roots? And what is the Ev-l Empire?

Beckley - Well since we have no real evidence that these Ultra-
Terrestrials are physical, flesh and tenderloin beings from
other planets, I feel hard pressed to continue referring to them
as aliens and ETs. They are really Ultra-Terrestrials in the
sense that they exist outside of our own sphere of reference.
They are certainly NOT part of the human r-ce. They are
definitely not physical in the sense that we are, but can best
be categorized as phantasms of the night. They are capable of
accomplishing feats that are way beyond the realm of "humanoid-
like."

According to Dr. Turner, there is evidence that the Ultra-
Terrestrials can control what we think and see. They can appear
to us in any number of guises and shapes. They can alter our
perception of our surroundings. They can take over our
consciousness, disable our control of our bodies, install one of
their own entities, and use our bodies as vehicles for their own
activities. I can confirm what she has stated and have offered
up case studies in much of my writing in recent years. As far as
I am concerned there isn't much difference between what
transpires at a sance, in a haunted house or on a lonely road
at midnight. The visitors, these Ultra-Terrestrials have their
own agenda, they often disguise their true purpose to throw
percipients, as well as researchers off the track, giving them
false hope but leaving them in utter despair following their
encounters.

As for calling it the Evi- Empire, I do sense there is a coalition
among these entities as if they are working in tandem and are
ultimately up to no good.

I think there may be more than one source for this phenomenon,
but its probably out of our range as far as rationalizing in
common phrases what it is we are dealing with. Its something
that has been with us since the beginning of time and follows us
around like a shadow, but continually shows us who the master is
and that they have us in their grips and the human rac- under
their control.

4. Could you tell us about some of the hybrid creatures seen in
the underground facilities by abductees?

Beckley -- I would surmise you are talking about what have been
dubbed the "underground alien bases" situated around the country
and the world, but particularly the one up in the mountains in
Dulce, New Mexico on an Native America reservation. Supposedly
there is an underground instillation there that goes down seven
levels that is inhabited jointly by a super s-cret branch of the
mi-itary and aliens of various shapes, forms, and disguises.
There are the reptilians, the insectoids, the grays and probably
a couple of tall blondes who could easily walk amongst us. To me
these stories are hard to substantiate. We did publish a book
Underground Alien Bio Lab at Dulce that contains everything you
could possibly want to know about this instillation from the
fire fight that is said to have taken place there between the
milit-ry and renegade alien forces. There are several abductees
interviewed who claim to have been examined by the Ultra-
Terrestrials working in cooperation with the e-ite Blue Berets
squad in a joint effort to examine and "tag" humans. I don't
know if I swallow most of this. My long time friend Norio
H-yakawa and other researchers have implied that there might
actually be some illegal genocidal experiments being conducted
on the Native Americans living out there, and they are covering
it up with a di-information program of aliens and underground
bases.

Part 2.

John Winston.  johnfw@mlode.com