Subject:  Thrive.     Part 6.                                  May 28, 2012.

  Not only do we have the funny looking Men In Black but
we have part of our s-cret g-vernment who will k-ll you
if you tell the truth about UFOs.  We also have the t-ugs
that work for the o-l companies and e-ectric power
compies that will ki-l you if you make a fr-e energy
device.  Yes this is a wonderful Earth we live on.

  This part talks about aliens.

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I thought I was going to spend six months to a year arguing
over whether the F-deral Reserve was fe-eral and whether
there was any agenda going on. People are getting the movie,
they are getting the coherence and they are moving very
quickly to, 'OK, what can we do about it and what are the
organizing principles?' This is where I think the knowledge
that is in the liberty movement is now going to be blossoming
and bringing its contribution to really rescuing what's going
on across the planet.

One of the major breakthroughs in Thrive was offering a
three-stage solution a solution plan, if you will. Certainly
one of the stumbling blocks for the liberty community,
as I've been associated with it for many years, is that so
many of the thinkers are isolated in the ivory towers of
the peer principles that they are not engaging much at
all in practical, transition solutions. What I did in Thrive
was kept to Mises and Ro-hbard notion of keeping the
goal in mind but then creating effective transition
strategies. As long as the goal is absolute liberty, and
you commit to not creating any new violations along the
way, it's easier to tolerate what goes on in the gradual
shrinking of the system because the system is not going
away overnight.

So that's where, in Stage 1, we take care of disenfranchised
people not with new taxes but with money that is getting
freed up from cutting the mi-itary budget and from getting rid
of the Fed-ral Reserve and so much other corruption. If you
take that money for some period of time and help people,
and help transition from polluted to organic soil, and take
care of people who have really been struggling the most
and those who have been most damaged from this corrupt
system, then that gets you to the stage where go-ernment
has shrunk down to a kind of minarchist stage, where you're
protecting individual rights and providing some needed
secu-ity while you still have any gover-ment at all.

I personally am quite confident that if we can take it that
far, the prosperity and freedom and securi-y will have so
mushroomed that people will not want to stop there. By
that time and really all these steps start at the same time by
that time we will have seen that dispute resolute
organizations work and private sec-rity and private insurance
work way better than the state and people are taken care
of by neighborhood and by chur-h and by family, by genuine
charity rather than coerced. We are going to see how much
better all these systems are already working, and it will
just be natural to keep going to ultimately a voluntary
civilization. If we don't ultimately go there, I am not sure it
can work.

Daily Bell:
We think people should just stop participating in this creasing
horrible society and practice peaceful civil disobedience. What
say you?

Foster Gamble:
I totally agree and that's one of the reasons why they invited me
to Oc-upy and I was eager to be there and learn from them,
because there are a lot of people there who have been working
on that for a long time, as have I. I have been a non-violent civil
disobedient ac-ivist pretty much my whole life, and I think
that if we get violent in reaction, other than in true self-defense,
we're just going to justify more p-lice state measures. So I
think it's critical that we actually use  non-violent
non-participation.
World W-r III has been going on for a long time and it's been
going on in almost everyone's life. It's primarily because it's
economic. In Thrive,  John Per-ins makes very clear what's
been going on in other countries, but in this country the vast
majority of people's lives are being destroyed by this economic
wa-fare. But if people catch on that through economic means
we can collapse that house of cards that is the tapeworm
ba-ks and the me-ia and the mil-tary and so forth those can
be collapsed or they will need to turn on a dime to get with
the new agenda if people organize effectively and vote with
their money, vote with their lives, votes with their choices
that they make every day. And one of those is to not articipate
to whatever degree is safe and practical to not participate in
those systems.

Now, I have chosen to pay taxes because I don't want to be
taken out of the game. I object completely to any involuntary
taxes, especially the in-ome tax, but if I were sitting in a
jail cell I don't think I would be as effective as I have been
through being able to make Thrive and the website and having
a voice in the world. At the same time, though, I totally
respect people like Larken R-se and Wesley S-ipes and
others who have been willing to take that stand and pay the
price and have that action speak very loudly.

Daily Bell:
Why is it necessary to bring aliens into the picture at the
beginning of the movie?

Couldn't ancient civilizations have discovered what you
mention? Does it have to be ETs?

Foster Gamble:
Well, that is interesting, and one of the reasons Kimberly
and I funded the movie on our own, up through the first
rough cut. That's as far as we could afford to go but we
were committed to having any investors that came in
know exactly what the story was. We didn't want anyone
saying, 'Well, if I'm putting my money in then you have
to take out ETs or you have to take out liberty or you have to
take out con-piracy.' I will tell you there are people who
have warned us to take out every single part of the movie.
(Laughing)
But we knew that our life's mission was to connect the
dots, and this fr-e energy dot is as significant as any of the
other ones. The change that it would make would be more
dramatic than any other one I can think of and it's right up
there with liberty, in terms of that core importance.
It is really part of the back-story to the fre- energy, this
really convincing phenomenon of extra-terrestrial visitation.
For anyone who is willing to immerse themselves in the data,
you can read over 500 first-hand witness reports, from high
level gov-rnment mil-tary people, astronauts, po-ice officers,
pilots and so forth, and from countries all over the world.
There are consistent stories from all sorts of people and
consistent from people who have seen how these ships
are driven.

The two key elements that for me are one the suppression of
ETs and UFO information, hand in hand with the suppression
of -ree energy, because they do go hand in hand. If we're
being visited by beings from other planets or solar systems
or other frequency dimensions, they're not burning fossile
fuel to get here. That's physically impossible. So the
implications are huge.
The other element is that this isn't just a pol-tical film.
This film has a lot to do with our consciousness and our
worldview.
We used to think the sun went around the Earth and that
the Earth was flat but we grew beyond those realizations.
A lot of people think that we're the only life in the
cosmos and we are, I believe, truly cosmic citizens. We
live on this particular planet in a vast cosmos, but our
consciousness is connected to the entire rest of the
universe.
To the degree to which people open up to that their
consciousness expands, their identity expands and
they begin to access inner guidance, whether it's
from cosmic consciousness or higher-level beings
or whatever. Many famous scientists and inventors
have attributed their inventions to being able to
access this inner intuition which is intimately
connected with consciousness beyond the human
rational mind and our particular plane of existence.

Daily Bell:
Give us your take on ancient civilizations. We believe
that there was perhaps a global, coastal civilization
that was very advanced and was drowned by melting
glaciers. You disagree?

Foster Gamble:
I don't know about that but there certainly are a ton
of flood stories in vary reputable documents, from
all over the world from ancient cultures. So I think
there must have been some pretty amazing floods in the
past, whether from meteors or melting of glaciers
during warming periods. Scientifically, I would
certainly bet that those occurred. Whether or not
we have had ancient cultures influenced by
extraterrestrial cultures, the evidence is very
convincing to me that that did happen. I can't prove
it but circumstantially it seems to be so and the reports
from all over the world are logically very compelling.

Part 6.

John Winston.   johnfw@mlode.com