"I would be interested in the views of other believers (debunkers
needn't bother)."  Mysery loves company.

UFO's: Material v. Psychic/Ethereal
Group: alt.alien.visitors
Date: Tue, Jun 24, 2003, 5:20am
(EDT+4) From: rdelephant@aol.com
(RDElephant)

After reviewing the evidence in
numerous books, I have concluded that
UFO's are real.

Doesn't take much to convince you and your conclusions are just as
pitiful as your thinking.

The military and civilian observations
going back to at least WWII, the
governments secrecy and disinformation
efforts,

You try running a country without some secrecy and disinformation.  But
of nothing that involves YOU!

the abduction witnesses,

None exist.

the animal mutilations,

No evidence that UFOs are connected as no evidence exists to prove such.

and the increasingly inticate and
beautiful crop circles,

Isn't the human brain a most wondrous thing?

all combine to make the case that we are
being visited by creatures from other
worlds.

In the real world it doesn't but your mental deficiency seems to say
otherwise.
 

The "remote viewing" evidence is
questionable

It isn't just questionable, it shouldn't even be considered.  But you're
on the right track, even if momentarily.

even to the extent that it purports to have
remotely viewed earthly UFO visitations.
To the extent that it claims to explain the
entire phenomena (down to the motives
of the alien vistors) it is so fantastic and
unsubtantiated as to make one question
whether the whole remote viewing
subject is not, itself, disinformation.

Why don't you come right out and say it: "It's bullshit!"

Finally, I do not accept Jacque Vallee's
contention that the vistations are actually
paranormal intrusions from another
dimension.

We really don't know what's going on even though to claim that the
paranormal really exists is making a leap of faith.  But he is one hell
of an entertaining author.

While the visitors do show seemingly
magical powers at times, they also
appear subject to physical laws,

What visitors?

>from the crash at Roswell,

Ain't no crash!  Anywhere!

to the radiation poisoning of some
contactees,

Some "contactees" may have gotten too close to real govm't technological
fuckups.

to any number of other physical
manifestations.

For instance...

While ther may be an interdimensional

Prove "interdimensional."

aspect to their method of locomotion the
attempt to paint this with a mystical,
quasi-religious brush sems to me
enitirely fanciful.

Your thinking seems to depend on fanciful thinking.

I would be interested in the views of
other believers (debunkers needn't
bother).

Can't handle logical thinking, huh?

Randy

Randy thinking!