Here's something other than merely hot rocks to speak of;

Besides the fact that so many testy opponents are intentionally
tossing flak at my discovery and subsequent research (I'm assuming
their not all idiots, just functioning as loyal Borgs on behalf of
their NASA/NSA/DoD collective), they're continually ignoring some very
fundamental laws of physics, laws pertaining to *pressure* that shifts
the vapor point of just about everything (including blood) and
otherwise greatly reduces dependency upon O2.

In spite of all that warm and fuzzy flak I'm taking, here is something
more of interest, for those actually intent upon reaching for the
Venus surface may be in for yet another surprise. This knowledge could
even improve upon our chances of making it on other planets that are
not quite like Earth.

I've located something of further interest for the task of converting
relatively small amounts of H2O into some rather enormous H2, like a
ratio of 25,000:1

As a result, the issues of obtaining H2 from heat and of a little
energy are further improved for our focusing upon various "can do"
considerations for planets such as Venus, having shifted the balance
in favor of life far more than I'd anticipated. The following most
recent page offers those links and of a tad bit more on the
opportunities that are at hand.
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/can-do.htm

David Grinspoon seems to be another tough nut to crack, although at
least he's not being the absolute Borg of the pro-NASA collective, by
his suggesting things about Venus that are of somewhat more recent
history and, even though he's not willing to admit, his research and
subsequent publications are more favorable toward the possibility of
other life than not. Even Andrew Yee has offered numerous commentaries
of how life finds a way of surviving, even if that's in spite of our
misconceptions, or arrogance as I like to refer to it.

Essentially there is significant other life on Venus, or at least
there was such life as of 14+ years ago. Worst case scenario is that
we're seeing the remains of what used to be, though why leave town
simply because it's getting somewhat toasty hot, when you've got
seasons worth of cooler nighttime as well as unlimited energy in just
the atmospheric pressure differential alone, especially when that
differential is comprised of such terrifically dense CO2 that's
keeping the planets' mega tonnes of H2O aloft, as in buoyant in them
there relatively cool nighttime clouds.

BTW; thanks for keeping this topic open.

Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS  1-253-8576061  http://guthvenus.tripod.com
alternate URL: http://www.geocities.com/bradguth

is collected and the limitations and benefits, but it's just fine.
I have no problem with working off SAR data, .

What I have a problem with is anyone 'seeing meaning' in fewer
pixels of data than it is possible to actually discern anything
useful.    What I have a problem with is anyone interpreting any
apparently straight line as obvious evidence of artificial origin.

I strongly suspect you have no proper university or professional
education in image interpretation or SAR, and that you have never
worked in a government, commercial, or university group working
on SAR or overhead imagery data.  Or observational geology.
I strongly suspect this because you don't apparently know
how to do the very basic lowest level interpretation tasks
and grading the quality of your own data.

So, show us your work history.  Show us your educational history.
Demonstrate that you have any sort of proper professional 
background to justify the claims you are making that you
are qualified to interpret those images.


-george william herbert
gherbert@retro.com