Subject: Re: SETI/OSETI ignores nocturnal life on Venus and of near UV laser communications
From: bradguth@yahoo.com (Brad Guth)
Date: 30/06/2003, 17:49
Newsgroups: sci.asfro.seti,sci.space.policy,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.research,alt.planets.venus,alt.usenet.kooks

Besides the fact that you're intentionally (I'm assuming you're not an
idiot, just another Borg of the NASA collective) ignoring some very
fundamental laws of physics, laws of pertaining to *pressure* that
shifts the vapor point of just about everything (including blood). In
spite of all that, here is something more of interest, for those
actually intent upon reaching for the Venus surface may be in for yet
another surprise. This knowledge could even improve our chances of
making it on other planets that are not quite like Earth.

I've located something of further interest for the task of converting
relatively small amounts of H2O into some rather enormous H2, like a
ratio of 25,000:1

As a result, the issues are further improved for our focusing upon
various "can do" considerations for planets such as Venus, having
improved far more than I'd anticipated. The following most recent page
offers those links and of a tad bit more on the opportunities that are
at hand.
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/can-do.htm

David Grinspoon seems to be another tough nut to crack, although at
least he's not being the absolute Borg of the pro-NASA collective, by
his suggesting things about Venus that are of somewhat more recent
history and, even though he's not willing to admit, his research and
subsequent publications are more favorable toward the possibility of
other life than not. Even Andrew Yee has offered numerous commentaries
of how life finds a way of surviving, even if that's in spite of our
misconceptions, or arrogance as I like to refer to it.

Essentially there is significant other life on Venus, or at least
there was such life as of 14+ years ago. Worst case scenario is seeing
the remains of what used to be, though why leave town simply because
it's getting somewhat toasty hot, when you've got seasons worth of
cooler nighttime as well as unlimited energy in just the atmospheric
pressure differential alone, especially when that differential is
comprised of such terrifically dense CO2 that's keeping the planets'
mega tonnes of H2O aloft, as in buoyant in them there relatively cool
nighttime clouds.

BTW; thanks for keeping this topic open.

Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS  1-253-8576061  http://guthvenus.tripod.com
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