Wernher Magnus Maximilian von Braun was born 
to Baron Magnus von Braun and Emmy von Quistorp 
on March 23, 1912 in Wirsitz, a town in the 
eastern German province of Posen.
http://www.v2rocket.com/start/chapters/vonbraun.html

"Cliff Smith" <cliff(nospam)smith23@ntlworld.com> wrote: 

"APOL" <APhOL@ogistic.net> wrote 

Let's now discuss various reasons for utilizing S/M
or related techniques within a magical context.
http://www.deathandhell.com/corpus/sex_magick/sadomak.html

*shudder* let's not...
-- Cliff Smith

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Well, that's really...interesting. Thanks. No, really. Thanks.

Biographical Sketch of Dr. Wernher Von Braun
http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/vonbraun/

Wernher Von Braun

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Wernher+Von+Braun

Er, yeah, thanks again. I think you can take it for granted that most people
on this NG already know who Wernher Von Braun was. Anyone who doesn't
probably shouldn't be here.  -- Cliff Smith

Therefore, according to your logic, the 'known' is off-limits
for discussion, and 'here' (wherever 'here' is) is only for
those who know what isn't unknown. Okay then... B'bye! --I.C.

WoMen in GREEN [*]
[...]
"The extraterrestrial hypothesis is by far the 
most popular theory of UFO origins, but it
presents many problems. As the great UFO 
waves of the late 1960s faded into history, 
many UFOlogists were left wondering if the 
"nuts and bolts" approach was really valid. 
They had abundant eyewitness reports, 
some landing traces, and even purported 
fragments of flying saucers, yet they were 
not able to pin down true nature of the 
phenomenon. The exclusive domination of 
the ETH among serious UFOlogists began 
to crack under these paradoxical conditions, 
and a new theory emerged.

  "But was it new? As far back as 1919, 
writer Charles Fort had been collecting 
accounts of inexplicable anomalies, including
strange objects seen in the sky. Fort was a 
philosopher and a humorist, and he proposed 
many tongue in cheek theories to explain the 
events he described. One of his favorites 
was that the Earth did not belong to mankind, 
but in fact was a sort of cosmic game 
reserve, owned by a race of superbeings. 
He summed up this idea in the pithy aphorism: 
'I think we are property.'

"Fifty years later, John Keel came to the 
same conclusion..." <snip>
[From: "The Paraphysical Theory of UFO Origins" 
<http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.parascope.com/>]

[*] Black Moth PSYOPS, John Keel, The Mothman Prophecies, 
    WoMen in GREEN & Major J. Downing
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=John+Keel+Mothman>

"Major Jack Downing"  once wrote:

Somehow it's being circulated that I was a MIB.  
<snip>
I recently read a magazine article about a 
"moth man" sighting in Point Pleasant, WV 
which in 1967 escalated into some unpleasantness 
for all involved. I was not aware until then that this 
matter had made its way into UFO lore. I'll share a 
bit of what I know about that. I was not there at 
the time, but my father and some of the other 
Black Ops Brethren were there, and shared some 
of their experience and knowledge about that 
farce with me. This incident was an unusual 
chapter in the history of the Brethren, because 
on this occasion they were not mobilized to 
handle a "UFO" or "ET" sighting. The government 
was fooling around with some experimental warfare 
technologies, testing the effects of various 
radiations and electromagnetic fields on a guinea 
pig population in this sleepy WV town. 
They'd emit large doses of whatever energy into 
the town, then sit back and observe pathology 
clusters, changes in crime rate, mortality, 
mental illness, and whatever other measurable 
changes might result from said exposure. 
What the investigators didn't count on was 
the attraction the EM activity might have for 
"black dogs". The so-called "moth man", 
when it appeared, attracted a lot of unwanted 
press attention to this little town, which was 
the last thing the gov't needed, having expended 
considerable sums in their secret research. So the 
Black Ops Brethren had to move in to size up the 
situation, and assess the impact of this black dog 
presence. My father, who headed a team of 
Kalo Lowve MIBs, set up observation post all 
over this town, hoping to catch sight of one of 
these things, and to silence further witnesses lest 
they contact the press or police. The whole 
situation turned into a monkey-house, ultimately. 
The gov't carried on with the radiation project, the 
black dogs (moths) continued to pop up, AND the 
Fey (elemental) MIBs showed up to further complicate 
matters. They were trying to silence press, witnesses, 
and us, so we had to keep them at arm's length despite 
our truce with them. The Fey MIBs managed to round 
up their black dogs and get them out only by monkey 
wrenching the gov't project. The equipment used to 
direct the radiation and EM fields at the town mysteriously 
disappeared. A couple of gov't scientists were driven to
suicide, my father was sighted too many times, and nearly 
had his cover blown, and the Kalo Lowve threatened to 
cease cooperating with us. Some wierdo who actually 
seemed to know too much (a traitor to one of the MIB 
orgs, possible a KL) started leaking stuff to one of the 
UFO investigators, but fortunately did not give the 
whole game away. It was about this time that some of 
the improved directed-energy and implant technologies 
come to fruition. The fey MIB had been the sole abductors
up to this point, by whatever magical technologies they 
possessed. Now we had something similar, and put some 
of this stuff to good use. Unfortunately, some other 
agency (was it COMM-12?) got their hands on the better 
equipment and began to abduct people wholesale. 
It is this other group that really got rolling with the 
"abduction by greys" scenario. They were not doing any
kind of MIB stuff. They just wanted to examine the effects 
of their germ warfare work, and they were getting sick of 
schlepping cattle out by night. So they collect random 
specimens from the human population, do a biopsy, put in 
a simple tracking implant ("tagging them") and send them 
back home with visions of aliens dancing in their heads. 
They did a lot of this to Military dependents too. 
Anyway, we were not the ones who were killing witnesses 
back then. As I'd mentioned before, the old Black
Ops Brethren had a no-kill policy. It was the Fey MIB 
who downed that bridge after the Point Pleasant incident. 
That was one year to the day after the first black dog set 
down there. 

On the matter of these fey MIBs, I've heard a few 
interesting tales. One of the old guys, who had 
been in the fraternity since before WWII, had 
collected some stories from the usually-evasive 
elementals. One tale, which they apparently enjoyed
bragging about was the role they played in the evolution 
of American music. It seems this handsome young black 
fellow was doing a little voodoo ceremony at a rural 
crossroads. This attracted the interest of a couple of 
elementals, who find such things compelling. After 
doing his ritual, this young man sat down by the roadside 
and began picking at a guitar. It occured to one of
these elementals that he could help the boy out, 
so he shape-shifted a bit (to look the part) and walked 
right up to the musician. He took the guitar from the 
player's hand and re-tuned it. Played an unusual melody 
on it, then handed it back. The contact with his returned 
guitar had a "shaktipat" effect on him. Suddenly he was 
a brilliant and charismatic musician. But, when gifted
by a muse, there is that unfortunate fact that you burn 
twice as bright but for half as long. These elementals 
claim that they've intervened in human history since 
time immemorial, because they need us for their own 
evolution. They allege to have introduced drums and 
double-reed flutes to our remotest stone age ancestors, 
gave us witchcraft, and even got us interested in
psychoactive substances, which they claim were 
instrumental in the evolution of the human brain.  

****************************************
"As immense as that game is, there is a bigger one: 
 Control through fear. As Wernher von Braun
 related to Dr. Carol Rosin, his spokesperson for 
 the last 4 years of his life, a maniacal machine - the
 military, industrial, intelligence, laboratory 
 complex - would go from Cold War, to Rogue 
 Nations, to Global Terrorism (the stage we find 
 ourselves at today), to the ultimate trump card: 
 A hoaxed threat  from space.

"To justify eventually spending trillions of dollars 
 on space weapons, the world would be deceived
 about a threat from outer space, thus uniting the 
 world in fear, in militarism, and in war."
http://www.disclosureproject.org/cosmicdeception.htm 
****************************************

 "A Beautiful Mind"
 John F. Nash, Jr.
  Born: June 13, 1928

John Nash himself associated his madness with his 
living on an "ultralogical" plane, "breathing air too 
rare" for most mortals, and if being "cured" meant
he could no longer do any original work at that 
level, then, Nash argued, a remission might not be 
worthwhile in the end. 

John F. Nash, Jr. -- Autobiography
Quote:
[...]
During academic 1956 - 1957 I had an Alfred P. Sloan 
grant and chose to spend the year as a (temporary) 
member of the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton. 

During this period of time I managed to solve a classical
unsolved problem relating to differential geometry which
was also of some interest in relation to the geometric
questions arising in general relativity. This was the
problem to prove the isometric embeddability of abstract
Riemannian manifolds in flat (or "Euclidean") spaces. But
this problem, although classical, was not much talked
about as an outstanding problem. It was not like, for
example, the 4-color conjecture. 

So as it happened, as soon as I heard in conversation at
M.I.T. about the question of the embeddability being
open I began to study it. The first break led to a curious
result about the embeddability being realizable in
surprisingly low-dimensional ambient spaces provided
that one would accept that the embedding would have
only limited smoothness. And later, with "heavy
analysis", the problem was solved in terms of
embeddings with a more proper degree of smoothness. 
[...]
Thus further time passed. Then gradually I began to
intellectually reject some of the delusionally influenced
lines of thinking which had been characteristic of my
orientation. This began, most recognizably, with the
rejection of politically-oriented thinking as essentially a
hopeless waste of intellectual effort. 

So at the present time I seem to be thinking rationally
again in the style that is characteristic of scientists.
However this is not entirely a matter of joy as if
someone returned from physical disability to good
physical health. One aspect of this is that rationality of
thought imposes a limit on a person's concept of his
relation to the cosmos. For example, a non-Zoroastrian
could think of Zarathustra as simply a madman who led
millions of naive followers to adopt a cult of ritual fire
worship. But without his "madness" Zarathustra would
necessarily have been only another of the millions or
billions of human individuals who have lived and then
been forgotten.  [...]
1994
http://www.nobel.se/economics/laureates/1994/nash-autobio.html

****************************************

"extraterrestrial and religious delusions
[..] primarily troubled the real Nash."
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Aliens+%2BJohn+F+Nash

"On the afternoon of January 20th, 1959,
Nash, brandishing that day's copy of the 
New York Times, walked into the mathematics 
lounge at MIT. In a strong voice he announced 
that he'd discovered that the little box in 
the upper left-hand corner (the off-lede) 
carried a message from outer space aliens to 
the governments of earth, which he alone was 
able to decipher."
-- Cyberculture Counterconspiracy
http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/ny59.GIF

Instead of writing this off to Nash's 
schizophrenia, the Cyberculture volume 
notes that there really was something 
weird about the NY Times off-lede, in 
the line box surrounding the motto 
"All the news that's fit to print", 
and reproduces several examples.
The Cyberculture book comments that 
"Nash, indeed was alone among earth 
mathematicians to notice the subtle
alien code."
http://www.lorencoleman.com/steamshovel.html

George Mackey from Harvard Math asks Nash 
how he can believe in ET's

Mackey: "How could you believe that 
   extraterrestrials are sending 
   you messages? How could you    
   believe that you are being 
   recruited by the aliens from 
   outer space to save the world?"

Nash: "Because the ideas I had about 
 supernatural beings came to me 
 the same way that my mathematical 
 ideas did. So I took them seriously."
*****************************

One of the first manifestations of Nash's 
schizophrenia was his belief that aliens were
sending him secret coded messages through the 
New York Times and over radio stations. 
(He also, at other times, attempted to 
renounce his U.S. citizenship, and traveled 
to Europe believing he was a secret religious
figure chosen to be the Prince of Peace.)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=John+Nash+%2BAliens

****************************************

"... aliens (or whatever they are) may be
manifested thoughtforms, human agents, 
products of possible neo-MKULTRA 
exercises, psychotechnolgy, mind-control 
drugs and/or suggestion, time-slippage 
perception, a revival of fairy and 
elf lore, or any number of other
causes or combination of causes. 
If it's not stamped with the imprimatur 
of 20th century aristotelian science, or
culturally and media-approved categories, 
it seems that the reviewer doesn't 
consider it worth mention." -- Greg Bishop
http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/crewes.htm

http://www.martiansgohome.com/smear/v49/whatharm.gif

*****************************************
Applied Digital Solutions: "...people to be implanted with...
[<http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1274>] 
... the new Verichip I.D. chip." | "Become a Human Bar Code."
http://www.adsx.com/prodservpart/verichip.html
*****************************************

Dark Matter in Dwarf Spheroidal and Young Galaxies
http://physics.arizona.edu/~melia/dark.html

Variable Stars in the Draco Dwarf Spheroidal
http://www.aas.org/publications/baas/v26n4/aas185/abs/S5108.html

Observations of the Draco Dwarf Spheroidal
http://www.aas.org/publications/baas/v31n5/aas195/190.htm

James Oberg [Excerpt from: 'Everything is Under Control' by
             Robert Anton Wilson - 1998 ISBN 0-06-273417-2]

James Oberg, a longtime skeptic of the extraterrestrial 
interpretation of the UFO  phenomenon, has more than once 
suggested a rather conspiritorial countertheory.

   In June 1980, Moscow had a major UFO flap. People saw a
giant light and some claimed that aliens were chasing cars 
and drilling holes through house windows. Tens of thousands 
of citizens allegedly saw some or all of this weirdity. 
In _Omni_ magazine, Oberg proposed that the KGB was behind 
it: "The KGB, eager to muddy the waters and cover up public
recognition of the military space center at Pietsk, is only 
too happy to promote scintillating stories about aliens
chasing cars and boring nasty holes in windows."
   More recently, Oberg has pointed an accusing finger at
agencies of the U.S. government:

   ... Government representatives--officials, military
   officers, etc.--used "UFO" as a convenient camouflage
   for other official classified activities (such as
   retrieval of crashed aircraft or nuclear weapons or 
   other objects); or used artificial "UFO stories" 
   (in oral, written, photographic, film, etc. form) as
   "tracers" in studying the function of security 
   safeguards and personnel psychological responses; or 
   used "UFO" as an excuse (either intended or accidental)
   to cover up improper, forbidden, or diplomatically
   delicate activities... or any other activity that the
   government--or any part of it--wanted to keep hidden.

   Oberg made these charges in an open letter to Dr.
Steven Greer of the _CSETI_ organization, who is trying
to force the government to release UFO secrets. Oberg 
supports Greer in wanting the secrets given to the public, 
even though Greer expects the hidden data will support the
extraterrestrial hypothesis and Oberg believes it will just
show that the government lies to us a lot of the time.
   Most conspiritologists would certainly like to see the
release of any alleged "UFO secrets" dealing with lost
nuclear weapons and "improper, forbidden, or diplomatically
delicate" activities.

See also:
William Cooper, Crop Circles, NASA, Nazis and JFK, UMMO Letters

References:
KGB lies--
  _Omni_, September 1982

U.S. government lies--
  _Saucer Smear_, Vol. 44, No. 6, June 1997 
  (P.O. Box 1709, Key West, FL 33041)

*****************************************************************

And: _______________________________________

Robert Anton Wilson may be found at http://www.rawilson.com
     _______________________________________

 "As Thomas Huxley said, the universe acts a lot like a chess game
 in which the player on the other side remains invisible to us.
 By analyzing the moves, we try to form an image of the intellect
 behind them. Images that have seemed almost believable to me at
 various times have included the gods and goddesses of ancient
 Greece (if you develop a Classic Poetry habit, that kind of
 neurolinguistic programming can happen...) and also, of course,
 those extra-terrestrials who have so much popularity these days.
 I have also considered the player on the other side as more
 impersonal, like the Tao, or more bizarre, like Shiva Dancing,
 or more abstract, like Philip K. Dick's Vast Active Living
 Information System (VALIS.) Mostly, though I think of the player
 on the other side as a pookah -- a resident of Ireland, in rabbit
 form, who may at any time dump a truckload of the Unknown and
 Inexplicable right on your doorstep." --Robert Anton Wilson
   http://www.rawilson.com

  "What is necessary for man is to free himself from
  the entire past of mankind, not only his individual
  past. That is to say, you have to free yourself
  from what every man before you has thought, felt
  and experienced -- then only is it possible for you
  to be yourself. The whole purpose of my talking to
  people is to point out the uniqueness of every
  individual. Culture or civilization or whatever you
  might call it has always tried to fit us into a
  framework. Man is not man at all; I call him a
  'unique animal' -- and man will remain a unique
  animal as long as he's burdened by the culture."

  The "Anti-Krishnamurti":
  -- Uppaluri Gopala Krishnamurti (Born 9 July 1918)
  http://www.well.com/user/jct/mystiq1.htm


Wernher Magnus Maximilian von Braun was born 
to Baron Magnus von Braun and Emmy von Quistorp 
on March 23, 1912 in Wirsitz, a town in the 
eastern German province of Posen.
http://www.v2rocket.com/start/chapters/vonbraun.html