"Michael Davis" <mdavis19@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Kavik Kang wrote:

One in only ten years of looking, and with the very first (most

primitive)

device meant to look for it. It's also our neighbor,

90 light years ain't exactly just next door.

It is in galactic terms, it's a close neighbor.

Irrelevant. Picking and choosing the distance yardstick you use
for comparison doesn't make the star any closer.

It's not picking and choosing, the galaxy is a lot bigger than 90 light
years, a lot bigger, and so 90 light years represents a small area within
that space. Sometimes debunkers have problems with the most simple concepts.

Actually it's not at all what I was talking about. If you bother
to read further into the story than just the headline, you'll find
that the planet is only about the same distance from its star as
Mars is from the Sun. Doop! There is clearly more hype than
substance to this story.

Actually, this is what I read in his post, clipped right from it:

"What's more, the new planet has a circular orbit like Jupiter,
sits a Jupiter-like distance from its star, HD70642, and has no
bigger planets between it and the star, just like Jupiter."

That seems to say it sit's a Jupiter-like distance from it's star, not mars,
you know, exactly what you had been asking for...

All of a sudden, it wasn't such
a big deal too you anymore.

Because of the above false advertising.

What false advertising?

I point things like that out, that's what I do.
Are you new around here or something? :-)

No, but you clearly are.

How do you type maniacal laughter???

Not many compared too how many are in the rest of the galaxy. Two with

your

all-important Jupiter-like planet in just the right place,

Sorry, not the right place.

From what I read it is, one of us is mistaken. I'm not arrogant enough to
assume it's not me at this point, so I'll just say it appears too me that it
says it is at a Jupiter-like distance from it's sun.

Two in such a small area, when it's also a sure thing we haven't checked
most of what is between, suggests it. (I feel like saying "bucko" but

it's

just not me:-)

Do you have any idea how foolish you look?

Would you like to take a vote? I'm all for it.

Of course you are. Like most saucer heads,

Oh, you are new around here...

Still wrong.

Newbie is a relative term, newbie:-)

That's not true at all, some of your most demented debunker idols would
agree that I am an expert in the field of dishonest trickery known as
debunkery.

That's a science?

Why... of course it is!!! And you say you aren't new around here???
Debunkery is that wonderful "tool of science", one of them at least, that
has been used so succesfully over the years in the study of UFOs. One day, I
had this great idea... What if I applied these same methods, this wonderful
"tool of science", to other subjects? It was high time, I mean, why should
that valuable "tool of science" be confined only to fringe subjects? Surely,
if it is truely such a valuable scientific tool, it must have value in all,
or at least some, other scientific endevours. The other disciplines have
been denied this valuable tool for far too long. So I actually pioneered
this noble cause, bringing this valuable "tool of science" out of it's
infancy and into other disciplines... Certainly, if debunkery as a valid
"tool of science", as sceptics and debunkers alike have insisted for many
years (hence, the qoutes), it will continue to prove it's scientific merit
as we apply it to other subjects. Now if I could only find that damn wall:-)

Listen up, sparky. Whining about debunkers is a sure sign that you
are full of shit and have nothing of substance to say. You may as
well hang a big sign around your neck that says "I'm a kook" in
big red letters. People who can back up their claims and aren't
just spouting nonsense have no issues with debunkers. So why do you?

So far, bucko, I've backed up everything I've said, it's you who are just
ranting and looking foolish. But I generally have that effect on your kind,
so don't take it personally.

Just ask them. In fact, I'm even the world's foremost Great Wall
debunker.

Yawn. Was that supposed to impress me?

No... It was supposed to remind you who I was if you weren't a newbie,
newbie.

I love applying your kind of "science" to all sorts of subjects.
Would you like to discuss the Great Wall?

No, that's why I am in a UFO group rather than a Great Wall group.
Besides, there doesn't seem to be much to discuss about the Great
Wall.

Oh but there is!!! You see, the Great Wall was the first subject that I
decided to apply the wonderful "tool of science" known as debunkery too.
There's this slight snag though. So far, in four runnings of the Great Great
Wall debate over, oh, it has to be about 12 years since the first time,
nobody has ever been able to provide a single shred of evidence for this
alledged wall that you seem to have so much faith in. Why, for a guy who
goes around saying things like "Saucer Head", you sure sound like a Wallie
too me. Of course, as a Great Wall debunker, I am always open too any
evidence you think you might have for your alledged "great wall"... any
evidence that would be acceptable too a UFO debunker, that is. Do you still
want to play?

I'd think hard before I answered
if I were you:-)

Exaggerated sense of self-importance noted. Do try to get over
yourself already.

Actually, I was just trying to save you a lot of grief, but you seem
over-confident enough to make this mistake so, go ahead, make my month:-)

The point is that it isn't in a Jupiter-like orbit. It is in a
Mars-like orbit. That makes all the difference. Of course I don't
expect an science challenged ignoramus like you to understand the
importance of that difference and fully expect you will continue
to spout idiotic drivel at me.

Yes, like I said, being a reasonable person I am not going to assume that I
am correct. But it does appear too me after looking at it again here that
you are the one that is mistaken.



Marc Michalik (A.K.A. "The Rational Proponant", "The Teflon Believer", The
one and only Great Wall Debunker)

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