| Subject: Re: More naked skepticism |
| From: "CIAspook" <ciaspook@charter.net> |
| Date: 14/07/2003, 20:00 |
| Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,uk.rec.ufo,alt.usenet.kooks |
"Kavik Kang" <Kavik_Kang@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:8cwQa.58049$ye4.42876@sccrnsc01...
I have three questions:
You certainly do, honest ones too. I'm always
willing to drop my act to
answer some truely honest questions.
1. What qualities of superior knowledge do
you
posses that makes you think you are an expert
on
the subjects of Debunkery or for that matter
the
universe?
On the universe... no more than anyone else who
has an interest in the
subject. On "Debunkery"... I've been in these
newsgroups since before
Internet was really used, alt.paranet.ufo
through local BBS systems. I
became interested early in what I, and many
others, define as "debunkery"
which is the dishonest trickery used by some,
who aren't really even
interested in the subject, and really just want
to play their little game to
boost their own ego. I understand their game
well, and have an excercise I
call "The Great Great Wall Debate", in which I
turn the tables on one of
these poor people and show how silly their
tactics are. Hopefully Mike will
not be intimidated by the prospect of presenting
me with evidence, and you
will get too see this for yourself, but I doubt
he will.
2. You seem to have a penchant for putting
down
"debunkers". My question is: Why do you like
bunk?
I don't like bunk, we definately want to
seperate fact from fiction. But the
tactics used by the most rabid "debunkers" do
nothing toward furthering that
goal, so that isn't really relevant. By the
dictionary definition of "to
debunk", yes, that is a good thing, but that
isn't what people involved in
the UFO debate are talking about when they say
"debunker". They are talking
about the raving lunatics who attack anything
anyone says, insult people as
often as possible, and use any dishonest trick
they can think of too come
out on top of the conversation. They don't have
an honest interest in the
subject, only in boosting their ego at the
expense of others.
3. Is bunk more exciting for you than real
science and real facts?
Already got that one above. Real facts, and
especially real science, are
good things. Real science, that is, not UFO
debunker "science", where there
is almost no subject for which any evidence can
be provided.
Then I have one more question: Where you stated
". . ."debunker". They are talking
about the raving lunatics who attack anything
anyone says, insult people as
often as possible, and use any dishonest trick
they can think of too come
out on top of the conversation. . .". Can you
point out one specific instance where a "debunker"
used these tactics on this NG? No fair using
rhetoric or "I said". Google might be a good
starting point. I would like to see this where a
non-idiotic statement was admonished with your
above statement. If a person makes an idiotic
statement that is meant to be a FACT then I think
that he/she should get what ever is coming to
them.
The Real Spook