Subject: Re: 19 True Facts About Alien-Encounters//Underground Bases
From: "Damian Kelfer" <Damian_Kelfer@Yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 18/07/2003, 22:35
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct

"Sir Arthur C. B. E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in
message news:TiNRa.12339$cJ5.1036@www.newsranger.com...

1) Aliens can alter our perception of our surroundings.

A lot of things can alter the perception of our surroundings that
aren't alien.  Drugs (including alcohol) do that regularly.  Hell,
I hate my job so much that I go into automatic mode when in
work more often than not, and spend the day daydreaming; I'm
consciously and actively altering the perception of my surroundings.

2) Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to
us in any number of guises, and shapes.

So can television.  And psychological warfare.

3) Aliens can take us--our consciousness--out of our physical
bodies, disable our control of our bodies, install one of their own
entities, and use our bodies as vehicles for their own activities
before returning our consciousness to our bodies.

Very far-fetched, but possible.  (After all, when we get down to the
nuts and bolts of it, our brains are little more than biological computers.)
But consciousness transference is still in the realms of Sci-Fi.

4) Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can
make themselves only partially visible.

I saw a hypnotist put a glove puppet crocodile on his hand this
one time, and "convinced" a carefully selected group of participants
that all they could see was the crocodile - a crocodile.  A living,
breathing dangerous nasty that wanted to bite their collective
arses off.  When the hypnotist chased the participants around
the stage with his silly little glove puppet crocodile, they appeared
convinced that it was real and acted accordingly.

5) Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the
well-known scoops and straight-line scars.  These other marks include
single punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three- and
four-fingered claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort.

I woke up this morning with two small, swolen lumps (with even
smaller puncture marks in the centre of each) on one of my ankles.
There was maybe a centimetre between the two.  I concluded I'd been
bitten by something during the night.  Only last week I was getting ready
for work (that I hate) and discovered a pretty big bruise around my
knee that wasn't there the night before.  I had no idea how I got it,
but I have a nasty habit fighting in my sleep (I have issues), and I
figured I'd probably tried to roshambo the nightstand next to my bed
during one such episode.

6) Females abductees often suffer serious gynecological
problems after their alien encounters, and sometimes these problems
lead to cysts, tumors, cancer of the breasts and uterus, and to
hysterectomies.

It's a sad fact of life, but females of the species are prone to such
problems as cysts, tumours, breast and uterus cancer...

7) Aliens take body fluids from our necks, spines, blood
veins, joints such as knees and wrists, and other places.  They also
inject unknown fluids into various parts of our bodies.

Mosquitos also do this.

8) A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious
illnesses they didn't have before their encounters.  These have led
to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes the doctors
can't identify.

Interesting, but not conclusive of anything other than some form
of illness is evident.

I remember this one time, when I was really young, where I had
an epic dream.  I was in a cowboy movie, in a stagecoach.  The
dream seemed to last forever.  Anyway, it was really getting hot
and stuffy in that damn coach and I began to feel nauseous.  I
remember that I was away from school for a couple of days
after that particular dream with a stomoch infection of some kind.
I.e., I was sick as a dog.  Did the dream cause the infection?  I
doubt it.  Did the infection influence the dream to some degree?
I believe so.

9) Some abductees experience a degeneration of their mental,
social, and spiritual well-being.  Excessive behavior frequently
erupts, such as drug abuse, alcoholism, overeating, and promiscuity.
Strange obsessions develop and cause the disruption of normal life
and the destruction of personal relationships.

Never felt depressed after that really vivid dream where you meet
the man/woman of, er, your dreams and have a really great time
together - only for it all to be cast off into the ether when that bleeding
alarm clock wakes you?  That's happened to me a few times I can
tell ya.

10) Aliens show a great interest in adult sexuality, child
sexuality, and in inflicting physical pain on abductees.

Sounds like the vast majority of mankind.

11) Abductees recall being instructed and trained by aliens.
This training may be in the form of verbal or telepathic lessons,
slide shows, or actual hands-on instruction in the operation of alien
technology.

See psychological warfare.

12) Abductees report being taken to facilities in which they
encounter not only aliens but also normal-looking humans, sometimes
in military uniforms, working with the alien captors.

Ah, the great "Military-Alien Conspiracy" that has been banded about
in popular culture for longer than a fair few of these abductees have
wondered this little planet of ours.

13) Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien
during an experience, not just the grays.  Every possible combination
of gray, reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow's peak have been seen
during single abductions, aboard the same craft or in the same
facility.

Kinda interesting that the word Alien is associated with something
reptillian, insectoid, blond or widow's peak.  Even gray, for what
it's worth.  There's nothing particularly alien about any of those
discriptions.  If our alien visitors were described as pink, thin membranes
filled with what appears to be a jelly-like substance, with no visible
orifices but the ability to - apparently - manifest appendages at
will, as limbs for restraining or inserting anal probes, then I'd give
the account more credibility.  If you're gonna be an alien, you may
as well be ALIEN and not some humanoid variation of something
we're likely to find right here on little old Earthypoos.

14) Abductees--"virgin" cases--report being taken to
underground facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures,
nurseries of hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of colored liquid
filled with parts of human bodies.

Enter Mulder and Scully, eh?  Oh, we love our conspiracies and
flights of fancy.

15) Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being
drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, and dismembered, and
stacked, lifeless like cords of wood. Some abductees have been
threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they
don't co-operate with their alien captors.

Surely, if this were the case, those alien captors would also have levied
the same threats with regards abductees discussing such conditions?
You'd think so: "Tell those puny human pig-dog friends of yours about
what you've seen here and we'll string your lifeless phsyical form up with
the rest of our trophies."

Now I consider myself a righteous person, but if I thought I was going
to be mutilated/flayed/dismembered if I spilled a whole load of beans
on what these gray/reptillian/insectoid commie bastards were doing, then
I'd keep my gob well and truly shut.  Even more so, given that I knew
the populace in general wouldn't really believe a word I said.  Being
mutilated for a cause is one thing, but if that cause doesn't give a damn
about me then I ain't martyring myself for anybody.  And I consider
myself to be an average person.

16) Aliens come into homes and temporary remove young children, leaving
their distraught parents paralyzed and helpless. In cases where a
parent has been able to protest, the aliens insist that "The
children belong to us."

Everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame.

17) Aliens have forced their human abductees to have sexual intercourse
with aliens and even with other abductees while groups of aliens
observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have
sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of
the abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain
celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees.

Again: "I Had Sex With Alien Pope!" makes a good headline on some
publications.

18) Aliens perform extremely painful experiments or procedures
on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary but give no
explanation why.....Painful genital and anal probes are
performed, on children as well as adults.

Doctors do this all the time.

19) Aliens make predictions of an imminent period of global chaos and
destruction. They say that a certain number of humans...will be
"rescued" from the planet in order to continue the species, either
on another planet or back on earth after the destruction is over.
Many abductees report they don't believe their alien captors and
foresee instead a much more sinister use of the "rescued" humans.

Claims of such "rescue from imminent chaos" abound in history.
Particularly in a religious context.  The Bible - a decent read, with
interesting characters and a rewarding story - waffles on about this
very same thing.  The only difference is, we're no longer afraid
to believe in something other than Yahweh these days.  Oh, the
story is the same, it's just the characters that have changed.  In a
hundred years time it'll be something completely different.  Wait and
see.

"In every instance from this list, there are multiple reports from
unrelated cases, confirming that such bizarre details are not the product
of a single deranged mind. These details are convincing evidence that,
contrary to the claims of many UFO researchers, the abduction experience
isn't limited to uniform pattern of events. This phenomenon simply can't
be explained in terms of cross- breeding experiments or scientific
research into the human physiology....... Before we allow ourselves to
believe in the benevolence of the alien interaction , we should ask, do
enlightened beings need to use the cover of night to perform good deeds?
Do they need to paralyze us and render us helpless to resist? Do angels
need to steal our fetuses? Do they need to manipulate our children's
genitals and probe our rectums? Are fear, pain, and deception consistent
with high spiritual motives?" ......Dr. Karla Turner.

The social collective is a very powerful tool for establishing fantasies and
injecting them into reality.  Behold the Urban Legends of the 20th century!

The Prophet responds:

This is an excellent post. Those who want to ridicule and scoff at this
kind
of information should be cautious and more self-aware. Such notions and
urges might very well indicate that you are living in denial of something
that has been successfully kept from you.

Successfully kept from us?  If everything we're lead to believe about the
Alien phenomena is true, if everything we've HEARD, SEEN and READ
over god knows how many years is true, then it most certainly hasn't
been successfully kept from us.  Hell, it's so deeply ingrained into the
public domain that anyone can throw together a quick claim of alien
abduction without having to put any effort into it.

Perceptions, aside, there is nothing to take pride in, in hurting those
who
are only too aware of their abductions.

And of those who are only attention seekers?  Must we tolerate their
attempts to make a shambles of the phenomena?

If you truly believe it is hogwash, then have the courtesy to think it
quietly.

Why?  Why should we do this?  Is it not also fair for me to say that: "If
you
truly believe it is NOT hogwash, then have the courtesy to think it
quietly"?

Those who don't want to believe, or who don't know what to believe, should
take a course in sensitivity training before raising obnoxious objections.
Be more
considerate of those who have seen what you may or may not have been
afforded to see--or experience. The louder you scream, the more difficult
it
is for you to be heard.

How about this: the "abductees" should show more consideration to those
skeptics out there before waffling on about some far-fetched story that
wouldn't even stand a chance of being printed in a cheap Sci-Fi fanzine.

How?  Easy!

Next time that gray or reptillian or insectoid rams its anal probe up their
arse, make an effort to sneak it back up there after they're done with
it (I'm sure they wouldn't miss one anal probe), then provide it as evidence
of THEIR existance and YOUR story before trying to get your 15 minutes
of showtime.  I mean, Christ, I'm a law-abiding guy (well, I only smoke
pot when I can afford it), but one of the dominant things to run through my
mind if I was on that operating table, with Mr. Gray/Reptillian/Insectoid
standing beside me, would be "What can I half-inch?  What can I take from
here that would prove THIS is actually happening?  An anal probe?  Sure,
I had it up there once already.  In for a penny, in for a pound.  Or how
how about a little biological evidence?  I'll scratch the bastard first
chance I get - maybe a little blood or skin'll find its way under my
fingernails.  DNA evidence is good enough to get somebody the electric
chair these days."  Something!  Anything!  Your abductees seem only
too willing to make claims about their ordeal AFTER the fact, even if it may
(as some claim) put their lives in danger.  But when it comes to putting
money where their mouth is, they're as broke as I'll be come Friday
night.

Shit.  It is Friday night.


Thankya kindly,

Satan's Evil Twin