In article <bf9p68$cpn4t$1@ID-186257.news.uni-berlin.de>, Damian Kelfer says...

"Sir Arthur C. B. E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in
message news:TiNRa.12339$cJ5.1036@www.newsranger.com...

1) Aliens can alter our perception of our surroundings.

A lot of things can alter the perception of our surroundings that
aren't alien.  Drugs (including alcohol) do that regularly. \

Finally, a debunker admits that they regularly indulge in
drugs and alcohol!!  

Even More Undisputed Facts Concerning Alien Abductions//All 100% Proven! 


1) We don't know with any certainty  exactly what these entities may be;  they
may be extraterrestrial, inter-dimensional, earthly or some combination of the
above.

2) At least some of the aliens lie. [Predictions, warnings, promises, and
contradictions.]

3)  During encounters, the human's perceptions are controlled as are the
conscious memories of the encounters.

4) False memories can overlay and disguise the actual events of an encounter.

5) Abductees report alien controlled information to the  research community.
While reporting their experiences honestly and sincerely, abductees are really
reporting alien-controlled data.

6)  There is a serious element of human involvement in the abduction phenomenon,
in addition to the very real alien participation.  Many abductees are monitored
and harassed by human agents of some sort and the cases involving phone and mail
interference, helicopter surveillance are only part of the story.

7)  The abduction agenda involves quite physical aims and procedures that belie
the idea of a primary spiritual motivation on the aliens part, as well as
refuting the notion that all they're doing in their agenda is crossbreeding.
There are physical procedures and aims that have nothing to do with
reproduction.  These include: various types of implants in parts of the body;
insertion of wires and tubes into the chest, kidneys, wrist and knees; brain
operations, deliberate pain experiments (ouch!); abductees immersed in water,
forced ingestion eating or drinking of unknown fluids, cloning of humans et.al. 

8) The agenda involves long-term mental and psychological programming of the
abductee, it targets among other concepts: our social and personal
relationships, our sexuality, our political ideas, and our religious and
spiritual concerns.  These are targets of programming that begin in almost every
instance, with the abductee in early childhood.

9) Aliens through technology create virtual reality scenarios that are
absolutely real to the perceptions of the targeted person.  All five senses are
involved.

10) The aliens show an extraordinary interest in human souls and in using those
souls.  [Soul recycling centers, black boxes, etc.]

Conclusions:   Why are they here?  Who in  truth are these beings? What
technology do they posses that allows them to implant, to control, to clone, to
harvest energy and physical material from us?  What does the government know
about this agenda?  What is their part in the intimidation, harassment, and even
abduction of abductees?  This is the focus of where we must concentrate research
efforts, in spite of our wishes, in spite of our fears.  I do not believe that
there is any room for fantasy in our thinking.  Not with the potential
consequences of this presence.
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Re: 10 Facts Regarding alien abductions//Karla Turner
"Frank W. Zammetti" <fzammett@fpsserv.com> wrote on 7/5/1997

I echo your thoughts completely.  It is unfortunate in the extreme to
realize that your words will fall on completely deaf ears.  You'll
probably get flamed at some point, a few people will try to refute what
you've said, even though you are 100% correct.

I've always said that no matter what abductions and UFOs are, whether
aliens, time travelers or government black projects, that almost doesn't
matter, we still need to have an answer.  What if abductions are the
result of some toxic chemical infesting the world's water supplies?
It's possible to some degree, at it's just as important a revelation as
if there are creatures from another planet trying to use us for genetic
experiments, or whether it's Satan and his minions preparing for a war
to end all wars for the eternal damnation or salvation of all the souls
of humanity?  Whatever the answer, we need to forge ahead and do serious
research to discover the answer, not be guided by our emotions and
baseless beliefs.

It is sad that too many people just go to one extreme or the other:
99% of people I would guess either believe everything they read or
nothing at all that they read.  They are guided by some "gut" feeling
that what they believe is correct, although it's based on nothing.

How many people believe in God?  What proof do they have?  How much
proof do we have of UFOs and aliens?  We have absolutely NO proof that
God exists, none whatsoever, no matter how weak.  We do however have
evidence that aliens and UFOs exist, although admittedly it's very weak
and circumstantial and very non-specific evidence at best.  But it's
still something to examine, something to research.  Why is it then that
so many people can blindly accept the existence of God but will fight
with you tooth and nail to the bitter end that aliens cannot possibly
exist, that UFOs are hallucinations, that abductions are just dreams?  I
can't fathom that at all.

Keep up your intelligent writing, perhaps it will make a difference
some day.  For now though, you'll meet a very few people who treat you
with respect and logic in their replies, as I try to do, and for now,
these are the people who represent a glimmer of hope within a vast sea
of stupidity, blind faith and lack of thought.  Take care!

Frank W. Zammetti