Re: More naked skepticism
Subject: Re: More naked skepticism
From: Michael Davis
Date: 23/07/2003, 21:07
Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,uk.rec.ufo,alt.usenet.kooks

Notorious net kook and utter ignoramus Garrrry "Always Wrong" Bryan wrote:

> In alt.alien.visitors Michael Davis <mdavis19@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
 > : Notorious net kook and utter ignoramus Garrrry "Always Wrong"
> : Bryan wrote:
 >
> :> In alt.alien.visitors Michael Davis <mdavis19@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
 > :> : Notorious net kook and utter ignoramus Garrrry "Always Wrong"
> :> : Bryan wrote:
 > :>
> :> :> In alt.alien.visitors Michael Biggs <mbiggs@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
 > :> :> : "Kavik Kang the total moron wrote:"
 > :> :>
> :> :>
> :> :> : (Yet more steaming shite snipped)
 > :> :> :>
> :> :> :> Your basic premis is wrong. I am not comparing the great wall and UFOs. All
 > :> :> :> I have done is applied the exact same evidential criteria to the great wall
 > :> :> :> as is demanded for UFOs. Nothing more. When this is done, no evidence has
 > :> :> :> yet been presented for the great wall, and it's been over a decade since I
 > :> :> :> first thought of this.
> :> :>
> :> :> : But if we all know the Great Wall exists then we obviously wouldn't
 > :> :> : apply the same criteria as we would for UFOs cos we don't know if UFOs
 > :> :> : (or should I say alien spacecraft with little green aliens aboard that
 > :> :> : like to turn up and give kooks anal probings, cut the lips and rectums
 > :> :> : from cattle and crash all the time but strangely leave no evidence
 > :> :> : whatsoever) exist no matter what all your kooky supporters....
 > :> :> : Garrrry, Roberta et al claim. Would we you stupid kook.
 > :> :>
> :> :> But whatever evidence of a UFO close encounter is presented; radiation, ground
 > :> :> traces, collected liquids, etc. it is dismissed as not "extraordinary". . .
 > :>
> :> : That's because there never is any real radiation, the so-called
> :> : ground "traces" could have been made any number of mundane ways,
> :> : and the alleged liquids turn out to be either myth, or nothing
> :> : special. So yes, nothing extraordinary here.
 > :>
> :> :> we have all grown up hearing and reading about the Great Wall, but I was never
 > :> :> given any evidence. . .knid of like Mikey with Sunday school, they talked up
> :> :> a good story but he didn't buy it. . .
 > :>
> :> : The difference is, the Great Wall is not a matter of faith, unlike
> :> : religion and UFOism.
 > :>
> :> Then it should be no problem to provide proof of it, correct?
 >
> : Sure. But why bother? Only a kook would make such a demand.
 >
> :> Why do you
> :> refrain from doing what you ask of others?
 >
> : Because there is no point. I don't give a damn if retards like you
> : want to deny the existence of the Great Wall. It would be just one
> : more idiotic claim among sooooooooo many. Haven't you noticed that
> : I've already totally gutted Kang's argument and I'm not the least
> : bit interested in debating Kooky Kang on this nonsense? Instead
> : try to get him onto something that is at least remotely on topic.
> : If you low-IQers want to deny it exists, as if that somehow
> : invalidates skepticism toward your claims that's just fine with
> : me. It just makes proving you are a bunch of moronic kooks all
> : that much easier.
 >
> : The issue here is *your* inability to back up *your* claims about
> : aliens. All the futile and lame attempts to change subject and
> : push the burden of proof onto skeptics doesn't change that fact.
> : It just shows how terribly desperate you clowns are. You aren't
> : fooling anyone.
 >
> :> Could it be your real agenda doesn't
 > :> allow you to play by the same rules. . .
 >
> : My rules have always been the same. Show me the evidence to back
> : up your claims or be branded a kook. And it is definitely *you*
> : who has been making the wild claims here, kook.
 >
> Nice meltdown, Mikey. . .

Nice projection, Garrrrry.

> why not show us the best way to provide proof or
> have yourself labeled a kook?

Proof of what?

> If proving something is as simple as you say,
 > then provide proof of the Great Wall

I'm not making any claims about the Great Wall. What part of "I'm not the least bit interested in debating Kooky Kang on this subject" don't you understand? It's all just a silly smokescreen and a seriously lame attempt by a few logically challenged kooks to shift the burden of proof away from themselves as claimants (that would be you). Don't even try it with me. I'm a little too smart not to see right through this silly little game you kooks are trying to play. You aren't fooling me.

> and I will review it using your standards
 > of acceptability. . .

You already know my standards. You claim to work at a TV station part time. See if you can find some file footage of Nixon at the Great Wall from multiple, independent, reputable news outlets. Get back to me on whether or not the Great Wall exists by my standards or not. Then see if you can find even a single UFO case that meets my standards. I won't hold my breath.

> remember, people lie, people hoax, people are mistaken,
 > people are unreliable, people have agendas, etc. . .

*You* try remembering that, Garrrrrry.

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"I don't have to do anything except post my name and it get ridiculed whether it has anything to do with UFO's or not." - Notorious net kook Garrrry Bryan brags about the reputation he has built for himself.