In article <jgd1ivo8ma55o8ib9746i26k0ub637l9gn@4ax.com>, House Widdershins
says...
....C'mon..
Mum's the word!!
Dr. Karla Turner on the Montell Williams Show, December 27, 1993
MW: Now Karla, your family has been having encounters with extraterrestrials
several times, but since you have been reporting this, you've said the military
has been harassing you. Is that true?
KT: Even before we reported it, Montell, it began the first time we even
contacted anyone in UFO research to help us find out what was happening with our
family. We met two different times, late into the evening with a UFO research
group in Dallas. Both times we left there in the middle of the night, we were
followed by unmarked white cars, through three towns, because it was three of
four towns away from where we lived. This was the beginning of human
surveillance. Then we would begin to have telephone interference, only when we
would be discussing UFO subjects.
MW: What do you mean, telephone interference?
KT: Talking with someone else about the subject and in the middle of the
conversation, a particular topic would seem to trigger the interference. We
would be in the middle of a conversation, and there would be a series of loud
clicks on the phone and the phone would go dead. Sometimes peoples voices would
come on the phone and drown one person out from hearing the other. We would get
harassing phone calls in the middle of the night.
MW: Harassing from who?
KT: Never identified.
MW: What did they say?
KT: Nothing.
MW: They'd just call, ring and then hang up?
KT: Right, right! Which we hadn't had before, I mean, I know you do get some
calls, but these were almost regular. Then we would begin to have helicopter
activity over our house we'd live in for five years with no helicopter activity.
Once we had begun to report these things within the UFO community, we'd begin to
have helicopters that often were military, sometimes, totally unmarked--black
with the black glass--in the middle of the night, so low, the windows would
almost break in the house. Sometimes, nine a day, as many as nine a day buzzing
our house.
MW: Do you live near an airport?
KT: No. We had lived in the house for five years with no helicopters over the
house, now we began to have them time and time again. I got them on photo and
video as much as I could, but we could never find the source of these. Then,
my daughter-in-law, who was in the ROTC program at the University, was asked to
sign up for what duty she wanted after her graduation. She chose meteorology,
because she was a physics major, and her ROTC sergeant said, "No, you can't do
that. You've got to sign up for R&D, don't you want to work with the UFOs and
the alien project? Don't you want to know what the Air Force really knows that
we don't tell anyone else?" This terrified her so much that she dropped out of
the program because she knew somebody had been listening enough to us under
surveillance to know that she was part of this ongoing activity. The final thing
was when my husband was abducted by military personnel, in November of 1988,
drugged, questioned and threatened about our involvement, with what we knew
about the aliens and what our family had been involved with them. When he
wouldn't answer he was knocked out, and doesn't know what happened to him after
that.
MW: But he recalls being abducted?
KT: Yes he does. He recalls the center of the abduction experience. There is
a mind control procedure that can be used to keep you so dazed and confused, you
don't know what's going on until it sort of lifts, then you can be questioned,
after that, they knocked him totally back out.
MW: I have a silly question. Did he ever report it to anybody...somebody came
to my house and grabbed me and took me out, drugged me and never reported it?
KT: No. He did not report it because he had absolutely no evidence of it
except the experience.
[Later in the show]
MW: Karla, for you this is a very serious issue. You have been abducted, you
have been taken, but for us who have never seen an abduction, for us who have
never experienced a UFO, you have to understand that I have to be skeptical.
It's like telling me tomorrow that Atlantis is going to rise out of the Atlantic
Ocean.
KT: No it isn't. Being skeptical means having an open mind, it doesn't mean
making up your mind before all the data's in. I hope you are skeptical. If
people want to know what's happen to me, I have a book that talks about it, it's
an inexpensive little paperback that's worth five dollars to find out, [Into the
Fringe-copyright November, 1992. ISBN # 0-425-13510-1] we don't have time to
talk about it here. This has happened to tens of thousands of people. I have
done research with people for the last five years. We have cases going back to
1954, where a UFO landed on a farm in Indiana, and had abductions with every
member of the family. The next day, the military came en masse and sequestered
the entire family for four days, wouldn't let them out of the house while they
drugged and interrogated them as well. [This account is written in Karla's
second book, called: Taken-Inside the Alien Human Abduction Agenda. Copyright
April 1994. ISBN # 0-9640899-0-4.] So, I'm not the only one who is saying this
or that it is something I've made up in the last few years. This goes back at
least to the 1950's. We have cases as recently as of October of this year
(1993) where people have been abducted by the military, drugged, threatened and
interrogated. It does go on.
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Dr. Karla Turner passed away on Jan. 9th 1996 from a mysterious fast-acting
cancer.
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Oilcanharryscarry (dicckk@prodigy.net) added the following commentary:
Mums the word. These experiences involving the military are unique,
involving for the most part, what might be called USA's Shadow Government--a
far reaching arm with far reaching consequences that operates covertly
almost in full light of day.
It is less of an actual institution, or used to be, until the last 60 or
so years. I mention this because, if you think about it, most governments
normally have what might be called Shadow Governments---people of influence
and political standing and power and money to influence those who make up
the obvious government.
In this case, USA's Shadow Government is quite organized, but still
mostly by factions, factions which aren't entirely aware of other factions.
But, the faction responsible for things such as 'abductions' reported in the
instance of 'military' in this post, as well as the one that has the real
gist of UFOs and ETs, operates right under the noses of Americans. It is
only involved mainly with ONE race of ETs, or, if others, by might of that
One's agreement or permission. And, important to mention, it is world wide.
This organization is immense, even as among it's departments, one
department might be in total secret or denial of the other, depending.
This is why I have chided serious ufo researchers that they should
follow the money trail.
While much of that money comes via our Government, it's abstraction is
not by full knowledge of our Government, or the means by which it is
labeled. Those types of funds are not what our Government recognizes as
allocated funds, in terms of their use. But, large sums is also laundered
and shielded through large corporations, some of which are well known. But,
even so, the corporate aspect of this is more or less acting in as a Shadow,
as well. I mean to say, those of this interest act covertly, and most who
make up the corporation have no idea of this funneled money or it's purpose.
This sound convoluted, because the whole business is intentionally
convoluted, and likely will go as it has been going, no matter who speaks
out. And, in rare cases, someone will speak out who has gotten a bit too
close to the truth of these matters. Such persons are eradicated in one way
or another. They are either cleverly killed in the guise of illness or
suicide or accident, or certified as insane and institutionalized.
Mums, the word.