In article <s3qliv82koidmpcbbmn7e8pqccj51r7khr@4ax.com>, David Patrick says...

Why won't you even name the cases you personally have investigated?

I've investigated you and found you to a be a total fraud!!
You have no knowledge of the alien presence and
have refused to even read the books on the subject
you "claim" you know about.

That makes you a complete useful idiot
and a perfect debunker.  Now go away
and do whatever it is you do, which is
sniffing glue or something.

And Patty, your "slip" is showing!!

Jackie Gleason, Richard Nixon and Extraterrestrials

From: jesus475073@webtv.net (J C) Sat, October 23, 1999

Well folk, I am just tickled pink to present this one!

This article deals with the ole folklore of Jackie Gleason and
President Nixon, who were not only supposedly good buddies but
UFO believers as well. This one gets me because I remember not
only the Honeymooners as a kid but also the Jackie Gleason Show
in later years. Maybe UFOs had always played a part in the Great
One's life ? If you recall, Ralph Kramden was always threatening
to send Alice : "To the Moon Alice !"

"One more time and it's to the moon ! "

With all repsect to a great entertainer I now bring you "Jackie
Gleason & The Little "Men From Mars"

This was sent to me via email: I don't know where it came from,
so if anyone knows the originting source please let me know so I
may post proper credit !

Jackie Gleason & The Little "Men From Mars" by Timothy Green
Beckley

Way back in the mid-1960s, I got a letter in the mail from
Jackie Gleason Productions, Hollywood, Florida, ordering a copy
of a mimeographed booklet I had put together relating to UFOs.
This, to me, was confirmation of what I had heard rumors about
for a long time ... that "the Great One" was personally involved
in researching UFOs.

Supposedly - and I've since found out that this is true -
Gleason had one of the greatest UFO book collections in the
world. This is where the tale gets a bit wilder. A story
circulated by Gleason's ex-wife, Beverly, has Jackie actually
viewing the bodies of several aliens who died when their craft
crashed in the Southwest.

The story was carried originally in the National Enquirer, and
though Beverly Gleason later confirmed it to members of the
press who were able to track her down, independent confirmation
of Gleason's supposed experience could - for the longest time -
not be certified.

Now with the striking revelations of a young man who knew
Gleason personally, it can safely be said that such an event did
take place...Larry Warren was an Airman First Class stationed at
Bentwaters Air Force Base in England (a NATO installation
staffed mainly by US. servicemen) when an incredible series of
events took place over Christmas week of 1980. A UFO was picked
up on radar and subsequently came down just outside the
perimeter of the base in a dense forest.

On the first of several nights of confrontation with the
Unknown, three security police ventured into the area across an
eerie-looking object hovering just above the ground. One of the
MPs was mesmerized by the UFO and was unable to move for nearly
an hour. While in this mental state, he received some sort of
telepathic message that the craft would return.

For the next few nights, up to 80 US. servicemen, British
bobbies, as well as civilians from some nearby farms, witnessed
an historic event. According to Larry Warren who stood within
feet of this craft from another world-three occupants came out
of the ship and actually communicated with a high ranking member
of the U.S. Air Force. This close encounter at Bentwaters has
become the subject of several books (see "From Out Of The Blue",
Jenny Randles, Inner Light Publications) and has been given wide
publicity on CNN, Home Box Office and more recently "Unsolved
Mysteries." Warren has, in a sense, become somewhat of a
celebrity himself as he remains in the public eye, willing to
talk about what he observed.

"Jackie Gleason was interested in hearing my story first hand,"
Warren offers as a means of explaining how he met the famous
comic in May, 1986. "At the time I was living in Connecticut and
both CNN and HBO had run pieces on the Bentwaters case. Through
mutual friends who knew members of his family, I was told that
Gleason would like to talk with me privately in his home in
Westchester County, and so the meeting was set for a Saturday
when we would both have some time to relax'".

After being formally introduced, the two men ventured into
Gleason's recreation room complete with pool table and full-size
bar. "There were hundreds of UFO books all over the place,"
Warren explains, "but Jackie was quick to tell me that this was
only a tiny portion of his entire collection, which was housed
in his home in Florida."

For the rest of the day, UFO researcher and UFO witness
exchanged information. "Gleason seemed to be very well informed
on the subject," Larry says, "as he knew the smallest detail
about most cases and showed me copies of the book "Clear Intent"
that had just been published, as well as a copy of "Sky Crash",
a British book about Bentwaters that was published, actually,
before all the details of this case were made public. I remember
Gleason telling me about his own sightings of several discs in
Florida and how he thought there were undersea UFOs bases out in
the Bermuda Triangle."

But it wasn't till after Warren had downed a few beers and
Gleason had had a number of drinks-"his favorite, Rob Roys"-that
conversation really got down to brass tacks. "At some point,
Gleason turned to me and said, 'I want to tell you something
very amazing that will probably come out some day anyway. We've
got em!' 'Got what', I wanted to know? 'Aliens!'

Gleason sputtered, catching his breath." According to Warren,
Jackie proceeded to tell him the intriguing set of circumstances
that led him to the stunning conclusion that extraterrestrials
have arrived on our cosmic shores.

"It was back when Nixon was in office that something truly
amazing happened to me," Gleason explained. "We were close
golfing buddies and had been out on the golf course all day when
somewhere around the 15th hole, the subject of UFOs came up. Not
many people know this," Gleason told Warren, "but the President
shares my interest in this matter and has a large collection of
books in his home on UFOs just like I do. For some reason,
however, he never really took me into his confidence about what
he personally knew to be true... one of the reasons being that
he was usually sur rounded by so many aids and advisers."

Later that night, matters changed radically, when Richard Nixon
showed up at Gleason's house around midnight. "He was all alone
for a change. There were no secret service agents with him or
anyone else. I said, 'Mr. President, what are you doing here?'
and he said he wanted to take me someplace and show me
something."

Gleason got into the President's private car and they sped off
into the darkness - their destination being Homestead Air Force
Base. "I remember we got to the gate and this young MP came up
to the car to look to see inside and his jaw seemed to drop a
foot when he saw who was behind the wheel. He just sort of
pointed and we headed off."

Warren says that later Gleason found out that the Secret Service
was going absolutely crazy trying to find out where Nixon was.
"We drove to the very far end of the base in a segregated area,"
Gleason went on, "finally stopping near a well-guarded building.
The security police saw us coming and just sort of moved back as
we passed them and entered the structure. There were a number of
labs we passed through first before we entered a section where
Nixon pointed out what he said was the wreckage from a flying
saucer, enclosed in several large cases."

Gleason noted his initial reaction was that this was all a joke
brought on by their earlier conversation on the golf course. But
it wasn't, as Gleason soon learned. "Next, we went into an inner
chamber and there were six or eight of what looked like
glass-topped Coke freezers. Inside them were the mangled remains
of what I took to be children. Then - upon closer examination -
I saw that some of the other figures looked quite old. Most of
them were terribly mangled as if they had been in an accident."

According to Larry Warren's testimony (regarding Gleason's
lengthy conversation about UFOs and space visitors), "I forget
whether he said they had three or four fingers on each hand, but
they definitely were not human...of this he was most certain!"
For three weeks following his trip with Nixon to Homestead Air
Force Base, the world famous entertainer couldn't sleep and
couldn't eat. "Jackie told me that he was very traumatized by
all of this. He just couldn't understand why our government
wouldn't tell the public all they knew about UFOs and space
visitors. He said he even drank more heavily than usual until he
could regain some of his composure and come back down to
everyday reality."

Larry Warren is convinced that Gleason wasn't lying to him. "You
could tell that he was very sincere - he took the whole affair
very seriously, and I could tell that he wanted to get the
matter off his chest, and this was why he was telling me all of
this." And as far as Larry Warren was concerned, the Great One's
personal testimony only added extra credibility to his own first
hand experience with aliens while he was in the service.

"Jackie felt just like I do that the government needs to 'come
clean,' and tell us all it knows about space visitors. It time
they stopped lying to the public and release all the evidence
they have. When they do, then we'll all be able to see the same
things the late Jackie Gleason did!"

Hopefully this day may arrive soon.

Dan;

OK here again is tieing things together: Gleason's description
matches fairly closely what my source described in 1982 at WP:
Both the containers and physical description.

For similar descriptions to Jackie Gleasons experience, read the
Valuts at WPAFB section here at UFO Folklore !