In article <ktfoivs7k17f9eejj5qeifg04j3nd388fi@4ax.com>, High_P�WE�D_T��L
says...

I have a number of difficult but very important questions which only
the true believer...

There are NO such thing as "true believers" since the study of ETs
is not a belief-system but a scientific endeavor.

This article should help clarify that:

You Don't Have To 'Believe' In UFOs Any Longer By James Neff
<webmaster@sightings.com>  5/28/00

Whenever I hear the question "do you believe in UFOs?" there often arises an
instant feeling of frustration which quickly rolls over into fatigue and a sense
of pity. To most of those who have devoted even a reasonable portion of time to
acquiring an understanding of the phenomenon, the term "belief" simply doesn't,
and should never, apply. To use this expression shoves the UFO over into the
category of religion or even fantasy, and nothing could be more inaccurate or
counter-productive. It takes absolutely no leap of faith, no mustering of
imagination or whimsy for any rational mind to realize what is already a proven
reality: UFOs exist and are as real and the
Pacific Ocean or the Rocky Mountains (and may have been here just as long). The
simple fact of the matter is, UFOs (and whatever may be INSIDE them) are a real,
verified and massively documented phenomena ... but much of our culture and
language perpetuate and cling to the erroneous notion that we're dealing with
some kind of specter or myth.

One might 'believe' in fire-breathing dragons or fairies ... yet, there is no
evidence whatever that either of these exist. However, one need only look at the
facts now in evidence to see that 'flying saucers' (not merely "unidentified
flying objects") do, indeed, exist. Those who know UFOs are 'real' need to make
a serious effort to cease using and condoning that negative terminology of doubt
inspired by our disinformation-driven culture. "Are you aware of UFOs?" (i.e.,
"have you been educated on the existence of flying saucers?") should have
replaced "Do you believe in UFOs?" in both text and conversation long ago. We no
longer are soliciting people to 'believe'. Instead, we are (or should be) asking
the uninformed to become educated to the facts. The issue of visitors to this
planet, wherever (or whenever) they originate, is as vital an issue as any world
geopolitical, religious, or economic affair or policy. In fact, it is probably
far more important.

It is simply a matter of education. The evidence we have for the existence of
unidentified flying machines, even if we toss out all photographic evidence and
all abduction accounts or close encounter experience testimonies from the most
reliable, credible civilian experiencers, is...massive. Even if we dismiss the
most credible testimony and eyewitness accounts, the evidence is...enormous.
What remains is a nearly a century of 'expert' interaction with flying saucers
(and other shaped craft) under extremely scientific, verifiable, and examinable
circumstances. I am speaking of the countless military and commercial pilot
interactions with these remarkable, unknown machines, in situations where often
entirely empirical testing of data has been recorded. One could not ask for a
much better 'test lab' for the UFO phenomenon than in the cockpit of a military
fighter or commercial airliner.

In both situations there are one, or more, specialists in the field of
atmospherics and aerodynamics in a 'flying laboratory,' well-equipped with
scientifically-approved and understood instrumentation which can record and note
verifiable time frames, locations, altitudes, longitudes, latitudes of the UFO
phenomena. Additionally, and obviously, there is also (in countless cases)
verification by radar -- which constitutes a second 'laboratory' of qualified,
educated and capable specialists interpreting data. Apart from pilots in their
'flying laboratories' and their ground-based radar counterparts, there is now
also the testimony of astronauts who are increasingly detailing UFO evidence and
information outside of the stratosphere.

From these three sources alone, there exists undeniable proof of the 'flying
saucer.'

UFOs have entered practically every 'sensitive' international airspace, been
tracked on uncountable
civilian and military radars, been pursued by the finest and most advanced
flying machines on the
planet, eye-witnessed by our best trained pilots, even fired upon (or so
attempted) by pilots dating
all the way back to reports from WWI aviators over England. Our visitors have
been tracked at speeds exceeding all known propulsion or contemporary technology
and fully-defying the laws of *our* physics. Flying Saucers have on scores of
occasions brought military units, including our nuclear forces, to full alert
and then engaged those forces in what appear to be tests of our technological
capacity. Flying Saucers of gargantuan size have been seen at close range by
both civilian and military professionals and verified by radar...both ground and
airborne. Some would even say our visitors have taunted and played with our
military...the reports of incursions into our SAC bases being particularly
extraordinary.

Millions of dollars are spent every year by air force units around the world
from every advanced
nation to intercept these aerial interlopers. Countries do not spend that kind
of money chasing
Venus, 'heat inversions' or entertaining myths. To suggest so is simply
preposterous. The information and data, mountains of it, from these civilian and
military aviation and defense specialists regarding the UFO match or exceed the
information we have from "less than expert" civilian eyewitnesses of UFOs, and
only serves to validate and support public accounts of UFOs and/or interactions
with them. We accept without reservation the existence of atomic and subatomic
particles which only a privileged handful of experts in that field of study have
ever 'seen' with the most advanced special instrumentation.

Granted, there is far more 'scientific' data and knowledge of atomic and
subatomic particles than
exists for flying saucers -- but data is data, and evidence is evidence -- and
we have no trouble in trusting and being dependent upon the experiences and
veracity of the physicists and scientists
involved. We accept the reality of these all but invisible atomic and sub-atomic
structures with no
hesitation. And yet with the flying saucer, we are not dealing with 'invisibles'
at all. At best, one must define the flying saucer as transitory, difficult and
evasive -- but nonetheless, a real part of our physical universe. Unlike the
atomic particle which is governed by laws already understood, or well on the way
to being understood within the sheer mechanics of the universe itself and its
conditions and measures, the UFO has behind it an intelligence of its own. We
can no more easily reach out and snatch a flying saucer for examination than we
can ball lightning... yet, both exist. (There is strong indication our military
has had examples of UFO technology ...and its flight crews...for more than a
half century, but that is another subject altogether).

Our public sector scientific evaluation of the flying saucer is therefore more
akin to hunting a
rare and highly-advanced species of animal formerly classified as
'cryptozooligical' but now definitely reclassified as 'authentic' due to the
sheer weight of verifiable and coherent data from experts. Like the Tasmanian
Tiger, we now know they "are"... but to capture one for more advanced study
proves to be essentially impossible.

Ours or 'theirs'?

It does appear that the U.S. military has developed craft with similar
appearance and capabilities as
some 'flying saucers' (as reported by many reasonable and credible individuals).
However,
history shows us that the flying saucer has been coming and going on planet
earth for generations,
and centuries, which rules out the idea that all flying saucers are manmade
craft of a clandestine
technology.  Considering these realities, our language regarding UFOs should
cease, immediately, to reflect the elements of myth, legend or fantasy, and
fully embrace its definitive reality, helping to bring in a new cultural era
regarding the UFO. We must each arm ourselves with these most primary facts when
dealing with those uneducated, prepared to give a rational defense of the
subject. There is absolutely no reason to ever feel awkward about the issue
simply because others are poorly-educated about the facts. And educating them at
every opportunity is paramount. The reality of
UFOs is such that its implications require every human being to become as aware
of it as their
individual mental and emotional limits will allow. Our place in the universe is
likely to be defined
by this very subject, be it a truth we are ready to receive or a lie we are
miserably destined to
suffer.

Either way, we don't "believe" in UFOs. No faith is required. It is not a
religion or occult pseudo
science. It is a reality. What we do with that reality is now squarely on the
table.