| Subject: A PUBLIC APOLOGY -- Re: For Phil: Crossposting Statistics |
| From: edconrad@shenhgts.net (Ed Conrad) |
| Date: 09/08/2003, 12:58 |
| Newsgroups: dc.smithsonian,sci.archaeology.mesoamerican,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.fan.cecil-adams |
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 03:44:02 +0000 (UTC), pdeitik@worldnet.att.net
(Philip Deitiker) wrote to talk.origins:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:20:56 +0000 (UTC), Mike Dunford
<mdunford@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
1. When you did your own sets of statistics, you made no such
distinction between on-topic and off-topic crossposting. Several
people pointed out to you that there were on-topic crossposts in your
sample, but you ignored them.
There was very little to no scientific content being
xposted. Or as we should say, it was science in a pig's eye.
As I read talk.origins I have found that only about 5% of
posts deal with actual science topics, the other 95% deal
with meta discussions of many types. During the last
campaign with Ed the major topic was poetry, Ed's inability
to carry proper verse. I need not say anymore.
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Please hold it right there, Philip Deitiker
Quite an insult, your rotten non-sequitur
If you don't like my verses
About pseudos in hearses
Of the anus, then you & D.S. make a pair
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MAJOR NEWSPAPERS DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE
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Here are just a few of the many mindboggling specimens
of petrified human and animal bones, teeth and even soft organs
that were discovered between anthracite veins in NE Pennsylvania.
It means humans and large land animals -- including dinosaurs
and giant prehistoric scorpions -- existed on earth a minimum
of 280 million years ago.
Yep, it's the very same strata where the Scientific Establishment
has long insisted that the remains of neither man nor large land
animals could ever be found.
The Scientific Establishment is in adamant denial and therefore
says they're rocks and concreteions even though they are well
aware that all sort of state-of-the-art scientific testing had been
done on these specimens -- ALL with positive results.
Testing has included microscopic identification of Haversian canals
(miniscule circles, the telltale sign of bone); CATscans; infrared
scans; calculus analysis by crystallography (performed at American
Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va.); SEM (scanning electronic
microscopy); PLUS the favorable endorsement of both Wilton M.
Krogman, one of the world's foremost authorities on human anatomy,
and world famous anthropologist/anatomist Raymond Dart, as well
as the written confirmation of B-O-N-E by Jeremy Dahl, then a leading
bone expert at Yerkes Regional Primate Research Center in Atlanta,
Ga.
These petrified bones, teeth and even soft organs, as can be
expected, have the Scientific Establishment shaking in its boots.
It also has the major TV network news shows -- like Larry King
ive --
protecting their ass as they continue to ignore the physical
evidence whie continuing to play stooge to decades of deceit,
deception, collusion and conspiracy, the only thing that has kept the
theory of the evolution of man alive (but now has it on its death
bed)..
In descending order, the incredible petrified fossils above include
a human calvarium (a portion of a skull with the eye sockets broken
off which was identified by world famous bone expert Wilton
Krogman, author of "The Human Skeleton in Forensic Medicine");
a human femur still embedded in slate; a gall bladder (a CATscan
revealed it contains a gall stone); a tibia; a complete human skull
embedded in a boulder; a human lung; one hemisphere of a human
brain; a human mandible (frontal jaw bone); a human mandible (jaw
bone); a giant tooth; a portion of a dinosaur foot still embedded in
slate; a fetus; another fetus embedded in slate; three views of a
portion of a giant prehistoric scorpion; and, finally, a handcarved
piece of wood that has turned to anthracite, undoubtedly originally
used as part of a tool or a weapon.
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2. I just went back and looked over the most recent 100 posts to sap.
52 are crossposts. 22 of those are crossposted only to other sci.
groups. 25 are in jabriol threads, 3 in ed threads, and 2 are
crossposted to talk.origins.
I made some corrections in the filter to exclude further
posts from other groups. Also the Jabriol threads were
either in response to pollution (notice not xposted to
talk.origins) or the topic of Jabriols xpollution in
news.group, which I eventually ended because Jabriol was
using that discussion to feed flame wars elsewhere.
Currently the filters are set to eliminated most non-sci
groups, however because of the followups Jabriols post
trickle in, If I respond to these they are generally
eliminating 2 or 3 of the exposted groups in the post and
they are generally directed at groups asking them not to
xpost, after all was it not your group member saying that I
was singling out talk.origns. You can report to them that I
am not singling out talk.origins, that when any thread of
Jabriol gets to much activity in s.a.p. I send out 'please
stop' post to any group.
Jabriol is currently operating a very heavy campaign in
s.a.p.,; however most of his posts don't get replies in
s.a.p. Most of this is probably because he was spurned by
news.group and he feels the need to act out like a child
having a temper tantrum.
Finally you should note, I do understand the difficult
position the moderator of talk.origins is in, therefore
whenever it is mildly or completely inappropriate to xpost
to talk.origins, I eliminate one or the other group
In this case since you are a phoney reg of s.a.p. I removed
s.a.p. It is often difficult to catch all the spamming that
professional spammers like you and Jabby are (anyone who
feels the need to extend NGs just to get noticed with your
bellyaching), if I see a post with talk.origins and any sci
group, generally I will removed the sci groups (as nothing
that is xposted from here is scientific) on posting,
sometimes however even I miss a few posts. Other people were
exposting between soc.nordic and history groups. I noticed a
few members complained, not to me, but still, after seeing
those complaints I made an effort to kill posts that were
xposted to the groups with complainers.
These are my current set of filters which I am using with
nFilter:
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*alt.*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*talk*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*misc*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*atheism*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*religion*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*smithsonian*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*rape*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*legal*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*alien*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*skeptic*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*geo*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*physics*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*astro*
sci.anthropology.paleo drop Newsgroups:*soc*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*alt.*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*talk*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*misc*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*atheism*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*religion*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*smithsonian*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*rape*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*legal*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*alien*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*skeptic*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*geo*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*physics*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*astro*
sci.archaeolog* drop Newsgroups:*soc*
Do your group and your moderator a favor, don't try to stir
up trouble when none exists, because soon enough trouble
will find t.o. again.
BTW if the message if for Phil you can send it by Email.
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PUBLIC APOLOGY
I apologize, Phil, you're NO anus
A charge quite awful and heinous
I realize Mike did the crime
By badmouthing my rhyme
He'll get his when I'm both rich and famous
Ed Conrad
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