Subject: Re: Projects Moon Dust and Blue Fly and the FOIA explained!
From: Sir Arthur CBE Wholeflaffers ASA
Date: 10/09/2003, 06:25
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct

Very interesting. Where could I go to learn more? 

Clifford Stone has a book called "UFO's are Real:
Extraterrestrial Encounters Documented by the 
U.S. Government."  This book really pissed off
the spOOks, such as J. Oberg, because actual
military documents prove that the secret
corporate/military faction has had alien 
hardware for almost 60 years and have
been monitoring around 20,000 ET craft
over that time!!

ISBN # 1-56171-972-2

That's a great place to start!




In article <tZw7b.1093$ca3.579@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Neowulf
says...

"Sir Arthur C. B. E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in
message news:QV07b.19103$cJ5.2597@www.newsranger.com...
Can you tell us a little bit about Moon Dust and Blue Fly?

Clifford Stone
In peacetime-I must stress peace-time because the unit did have a wartime
mission (which I will get to later on)-the mission of Project Moon Dust
was the

Is this a response to Clifford Stone's question? I ask 'cause it's formatted
like a hypothetical question.

overall field exploitation program for the location and recovery of
non-U.S.
space debris that survived reentry into the earth's atmosphere. The Air
Force
teams that were sent out to gather this material were known as Operation
Blue
Fly. These consisted of 3- to 18man teams sent out of Fort Belvoir,
Virginia,
where the Air Force unit that dealt with this investigation was located at
the
time.

Very interesting. Where could I go to learn more? (I.e., what are your
sources, please?)

<snip...>

Now, we have a hint at what was happening. In documents we have thus far
recovered from the archives and other government agencies, we find that,
in

Which documents, please?

January of 1953, the United States Air Force had a newly formed
intelligence
unit known as the 4602nd Air Intelligence Service Squadron. It had no
peacetime

Read of that in Chapter 3 of _Case MJ-12: The True Story Behind the
Government's UFO Conspiracies_, by Kevin D. Randle.

<snip...>

Each base had a Project Blue Book officer as an additional duty to handle
the
cases. Air Force Regulation 200-2, of August 26, 1953, made it clear that
these
officers were to do nothing more than a preliminary investigation and
report to
the representative of either the 4602nd, if it was stateside, or the
5008th
overseas (which was handled by another regulation, by the way). These
intelligence units then would decide whether or not the report was worthy
of
further investigation. If something was deemed worthy, they would do the
coordination, sometimes even contacting the witnesses directly without
identifying themselves as part of this intelligence unit.

Some of this is meantioned in the (above named) book, too. Still, all your
great detail leaves me hungry for more. Where can I go?


Once they completed their reports, they forwarded them to Wright-Patterson
in
accordance with regulations.  Everyone thought, "Well, that meant Blue
Book."
This was incorrect. Blue Book had four Project Moon Dust monitoring
officers.
They had also four Project Blue Fly monitoring officers. They had a
dedicated
military air transport service known as the 64th Mass Heavy Squadron that
would
assist in the retrieval of any type of debris. The regulations at that
time made

Really?! Okay, as I'm only doing research for a novel, I don't HAVE to have
your source, but please, please, please give me any more detail available on
this! This has serious potential to be a scene in my novel.

it clear-internal memos made it clear- that every effort would be made to
collect debris of unidentified flying objects. One of those is known as
Intelligence Collection General Letter Number 4. To date, the Air Force
considers that particular regulation, of 1961 vintage and later, to be
classified-not releasable.


Then were did you hear about it?

CF: So we couldn't get this through the Freedom of Information Act?

CS: No, but the Air Force made a mistake. An early rendition of that form
existing in-I believe it is February 16, 1949- does exist. The FBI had a
copy of
it. Recently, I obtained a copy of that from the FBI. Presently, I have
pending
with the Air Force Intelligence agencies an appeal action requesting the
release
of this documentation. They have told two offices of United States
Senators,
Senator Bingaman's office and Senator Domenici's office, that these
missions
never existed. We showed that they did, then they came back and stated,
"Oh,

Juicy. However, who are CF and CS?

<snip...>


That's all,

Aaron
neowulf@earthlink.net
soon: www.neowulf.net



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