Subject: Re: The UFO Challenge and the 4 Golden Rules of the Debunkers//spOOks!
From: "Harry" <hbosch@charter.net>
Date: 12/09/2003, 20:03
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct

"Katrina" <katrina@mail2cat.com> wrote in message
news:ok34mv0lmtsugm3agpj00fifdur2rick5r@4ax.com...
What an incredibly closed-minded attitude.  You
totally ignore the
issue and questions brought up, and simply tell
the person asking them
to go away.

Why don't you go start your own newsgroup
entitled: "Alien Visitors
Believers Only?"  You remind me of the bumper
sticker I saw that said,
"The Bible said so, and that's it!"  Hogwash!

You talk about Sage being unwilling to learn
something new, try it
yourself.  Your reaction to his posting shows
that you are the one who
doesn't want to learn anything-especially if it
might conflict with
your view.  Those who defend their views with
such close-mindedness
are always wrong.

Now go ahead and tell me to get out of your
newsgroup.  Call me some
names and tell me "not to make any more noise in
this group."  Buddy,
Sage and I have just as much right to be here as
you do.  He's not
telling you to go away, is he?  No, he's
challenging the statements of
another and asking questions.  You're the one
who does not want to
listen.

Katrina


On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:55:10 GMT, "Supertech"
<ejone1@austin.rr.com>
wrote:

Sage or The Sage, whatever, what are you doing
here in the UFO(Alien
Visitors) newsgroup?

Find something that really interests you.  You
have no desire of learning
anything new and no interest in the
extraterrestrial beings etc. Right?

Then GO AWAY..

Don't make any more noise in this group.


"The_Sage" <theeSage@azrmci.net> wrote in
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Reply to article by: Sir Arthur
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Date written: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 14:12:09 GMT

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The UFO Challenge
December 1997
By Stanton Friedman

You call this a challenge?

As a nuclear physicist...

Hold on a moment here! Stanton *was* a
nuclear physicist years and years
ago,
but nowadays he is merely an author of New
Age-like books. His former
career has
absolutely nothing to do with his current
career. In my opinion, I believe
he
likes to hide behind the title "Nuclear
Physicist", even though nuclear
physics
has absolutely nothing to do with UFOs, maybe
because it adds
respectability to
an otherwise silly belief. I mean think about
it: if a Rocket Scientist or
Nuclear Physicist says there is a "Cosmic
Watergate", then by golly, there
certainly must be a "Cosmic Watergate"
because Rocket Scientists or
Nuclear
Physicists are so damn intelligent that it is
physically impossible that
they
could be wrong or could be suckered into a
UFO cult!

...who has had a serious interest in flying
saucers since 1958, I have
reached four major conclusions:

The evidence is overwhelming that Planet
Earth is being visited by
intelligently controlled extraterrestrial
spacecraft. In other words,
SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are
not.

Research by proclamation, eh?

The subject of flying saucers represents a
kind of Cosmic Watergate,
meaning that some few people in major
governments have known since
July, 1947, when two crashed saucers and
several alien bodies were
recovered in New Mexico, that indeed SOME
UFOs are ET. As noted in
1950, it's the most classified U.S. topic.

None of the arguments made against
conclusions One and Two by a small
group of debunkers such as Carl Sagan, my
University of Chicago
classmate for three years, can stand up to
careful scrutiny.

The Flying Saucer story is the biggest story
of the millennium:

A lot of stuff snipped to save  bandwidth.


Good for you Katrina, there are too many people
that think they have the only answer and will not
hear any questions or any conflicting views.  They
just want everyone with conflicting views to go
away and shut up.  What hypocrites they are.

Also I would like to hear any facts that bodies or
any alien craft of any kind were recovered in New
Mexico or any other place.

Also would like to see evidence that our planet is
being visited by aliens.  Might be a good idea to
give your idea of what evidence is to you whoever
answers.

Harry