Subject: Re: My theory of Internet debunkers
From: Sir Arthur C. B. E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Date: 13/09/2003, 22:13
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct

In article <bjvu9h01q2@enews3.newsguy.com>, David Spiro says...

Sir Arthur C. B. E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
FALSE, but nice try.

Question: What level of proof is adequate proof, then?

SF: I talk in terms of evidence. The legal profession recognizes certain
standards: in a civil court, "preponderance of the evidence;" in a criminal
court, "beyond a reasonable doubt." I think there is, right now, quite
sufficient evidence.

The legal profession also has another term for what you write about. It 
is called hearsay, and is inadmissable in court....

False, but nice try.  I know it is hard for you to believe,
but the law in courts are based on evidence.  Why debunkers
absolutely REFUSE to look at the evidence is simple,
it makes them look like the fools they are!!  Sorry Charlie,
there is no way out of this one, the evidence is stacked
against you and your Cult of Useful Idiots. 

Try scientific evidence next time.......

This is where the debunkers get cooked everytime,
debunkers just say NO to scientific evidence,
and YES to tabloids.  Point in fact, the main
debunker here has admitted he is an "expert
of tabloids." Of course I am referring to the one
known as The Sludge/Sage!!

Why visit Earth? By Stanton Friedman

The focus in my college lecture "Flying Saucers ARE Real!" has always been on
facts and data... five large scale scientific studies, Roswell, Gallup Polls,
Physical trace cases, MJ-12 documents, real UFO photos, star travel, etc.
However, very often I am asked after my lectures and during radio and TV
appearances a lot of "why?" questions, such as why hasn't the government told us
what it knows? Why haven't saucers landed on the White House lawn? Why are the
SETI cultists so opposed to the notion of flying saucer reality?	

Obviously I have never claimed to speak for the U.S Government, the aliens, or
the SETI cultists. However, after 44 years of study and investigation and 700+
lectures and answering maybe 35,000 questions, I have come up with my own
speculations.  Here, for example are a number of reasons for aliens to travel to
Earth.

Please note that I am assuming that travelers come from within our local
neighborhood, since there are 46 sun-like stars within only 54 light years of
the sun that might be expected to have planets and life. One pair, Zeta 1 and
Zeta 2 Reticuli, in the southern sky constellation of Reticulum, are less than
one light year apart, about 37 light years from here, and are about a billion
years older than the sun.

They have had ample time to develop technology much more advanced than ours. I
do not assume that the small craft often observed near the ground just came here
from Zeta Reticuli 1 or 2, but that these were carried here by a huge mother
ship, as seen in a number of excellent cases.

How much of the scientific evidence have you looked at:
how many samples of tissue of mutilated animals have you looked at?
ANSWER FOR DEBUNKERS: NONE

how many trace case analysis have you looked at?
ANSWER FOR DEBUNKER" NONE

And there are thousands of examples.  So as you can
see, the debunker has NOT looked at the scientific evidence.

Just like a Holocaust denier, if one refuses to look
at the evidence, there is no evidence