Re: Abydos "Helicopter" & other illusions

When I first went online back in 1997, this was one of the first
"mystery" sites I visited.  What one has to ask, above all, is if the
formal explanations are not sufficient for the curious, what alternative
explanations can they accept?  The Mexicans do it all the time with
their images of Jesus and various virgins in glass, wood, mountainside,
clouds, etc.  They don't seem to understand that the human mind will
always try to make order out of chaos.  What if I told you that in my
building's marble lobby there are all kinds of images: animals, humans,
aliens?  You can always come and see for yourself and when you exit the
building your mind should be set to still question everything but a
little voice will tell you that things are not what they seem to be.
Just think, it could be a helicopter the minute they find one in some
secret chamber!

el
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Re: Abydos Helicopter & the Golden Section (Disproving the
PalimpsestTheory)   
 
Group: alt.alien.visitors Date: Sun, Sep 14, 2003, 11:45pm (EDT+4) From:
rocket@the.moon (Rocket) 
"Jiri Mr." <jirimr@nospamshaw.ca> wrote: 
Marianne Luban wrote: 
Someone named "Thierry" asked the question about the "Abydos helicopter
business" in February of 1998 (or perhaps earlier) as he attests on his
website at 
http://www.finart.be/UfocomHq/usabydos.htm 
(snipped) 
Sorry I'm so late on this subject, I hope you will still spot this
reply. I would just like to show you my e-mail to Thierry on the
sobject, as follows: 
I have been following the discussion concerning the helicopter for some
time and am totally confused in my mind as to what my feelings are on
the matter. One thing has struck me, however: I can accept the
palimpsest theory for the "helicopter" since my knowledge of hieroglyphs
is minimal to non-existant and I must accept the opinion of experts that
the recarving of the text produced, by coincidence, an image that we now
think resembles a helicopter. When the same experts tell me that this
coincidence occurred not once (helicopter) but three times in such a
small area ("gunboat" and "submarine") I'm afraid laughter gets the
better of me. 
��������Please understand, I am not convinced that the
Egyptians of the time of Ramses II had helicopters, gunboats and
submarines. I am simply saying that this proposed triple coincidence is
not worthy of the scientific abilities of those proposing it and another
solution should be looked for. 
��������By the way, on my several visits to the temple
of Abydos, I have searched in vain for this carving and have failed to
find it. As I shall be in Abydos in November, I would be extremely
grateful if you could explain how to find it. 
��������Thank you for a most interesting website :-) 
Jim Ashton. 
I do feel that the reaction of qualified archaeologists on this matter
is "we have spoken- it is a palimpsest and requires no further
discussion", a comment I have heard in various forms on various subjects
(usually less controversial than this one) and which I find short
sighted and irritating in the extreme. Scientific thinking rejects no
possibility until it is proved conclusively to be wrong and, in this
case, I have not yet seen the proof. (remember Davis' statement about
the Valley of the Kings?) 
Jim.