This guy sort-of makes you think that he believes that something
unexplainable is going on, then tell us that he "trusts" individuals who
tell him that they know someone who knows someone that "handled alien
artifacts" and have conducted extraterrestrial reverse engineering
efforts.  Really scientific!  Hearsay, word-of-mouth, far removed from
evidence, etc.  Skeptics org?  I don't think so.  This Bernard does NOT
conform to the Skeptic definition, below, nor, imo, a scientist.

E.L.
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Re: The UFO Challenge and the 4 Golden Rules of the Debunkers//spOOks!   
Group: alt.alien.visitors
Date: Fri, Sep 12, 2003, 2:25am (EDT+4) From: Knud@nowhere.com (Knud)

The_Sage <theeSage@azrmci.net> wrote in 
news:bu92mv4e6av0lk5e2dfp033qbgef4i19uo@4ax.com: 
<blah, blah, blah, snipped>

I just hope our first ambassador to ET isn't a UFO researcher.

The Sage

Ok, now do this one:
(http://www.ufoskeptic.org/)

An information site on the UFO phenomenon by and for professional
scientists.

Skeptic - One who practices the method of suspended judgment, engages in
rational and dispassionate reasoning as exemplified by the scientific
method, shows willingness to consider alternative explanations without
prejudice based on prior beliefs, and who seeks out evidence and
carefully scrutinizes its validity. 
Bernard Haisch
Palo Alto, California 
admin@ufoskeptic.org 

Bernard Haisch
Dear Colleagues, 
I have been an active professional astronomer since earning my doctorate
in 1975. I have published a respectable number of scientific papers in
most of the right journals (including our favorites, Science and
Nature), have been Principal Investigator on several NASA studies, have
served as referee and proposal reviewer for NASA and NSF, belong to half
a dozen professional societies, have chaired international conferences,
i.e. I've engaged by and large successfully in all the usual activities
of a busy professional scientist. For those of you who want the full
details, click here for my CV.

During my career I have had the responsibility and privilege as an
editor of accepting or rejecting somewhere in the neighborhood of a
thousand articles in a prestigious astrophysics journal. This does not
conclusively prove, but certainly indicates, that I recognize good
science when I see it.

I myself am definitely not an insider, but contacts I have acquired
and/or befriended over a long period of time seem to be on the periphery
of some kind of inside which appears to contain at least remarkable
information, and apparently more than that. Let me be (somewhat) more
specific. I now have three completely independent examples of
individuals whom I trust reporting to me that individuals they trust
have admitted to handling alien artifacts in "our" possession in the
course of secret official duties. (The special access level in the one
case for which I know it is R, a not widely known SCI level whose
existence was finally verified for me by someone who himself had a very
high access level, though short of that one, as being "reserved for
someone at the very top." I do not know, however, whether it is
specifically reserved or designated for this topic.) And in yet a fourth
case, I am one tantalizing step removed from a former head of a federal
government agency who was involved with a special access program
reporting decades-long extraterrestrial reverse engineering efforts.