Subject: Re: Debunkers = Scientists? Nope! PROOF+PROOF=PROOF2!!
From: Knud
Date: 17/09/2003, 19:56
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct

Sir Arthur C. B. E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in 
news:lrS9b.20560$cJ5.2748@www.newsranger.com:

Debunkers = Scientists? Nope!

Ben Hogan <bearhunterman@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:30:24 GMT

I spent a long time reading the posts on these newsgroups, and have 
come 
to the conclusion that the so-called debunkers are as far from being 
"Scientific" as you can get.  They remind me of fundamentalist 
Christians who can't accept the heaps of data supporting evolution.

They are:
* Close minded

* Have pre-set expectations as to what is "possible", and dismiss 
anything, no matter how much evidence there is, that doesn't fit within 
their limited, fixed, view of "reality".

* Resort to personal attacks instead of attacking the data.  This is 
the 
most humorous part - just look at the people who do the name calling in 
these groups - The louder they scream and the more personal their 
attacks, the funnier they are.  It's actually sad that there are people 
that have nothing better to do than call people names.  What a 
miserable 
life they must have.  If they think this is all nonsense, why don't 
they 
just leave?

* They think they are doing some sort of public service by personally 
attacking people that simply report something out of the ordinary that 
they have seen or experienced.  It's like they have some sort of "God" 
complex.  It's up to them to save the world from any viewpoint that 
doesn't match their own.  

* They get a sense of "importance" or "worth" by pretending that they 
are smarter than the rest of us.  The fact is, they simply haven't had 
the opportunity to see something that some of us have.


And when scientific evidence IS presented to them (from peer-reviewed, 
well respected journals- Physiologia Plantarum), they dismiss it as "bad 
science" and whoever wrote it as a flake (even though they may have 
published over 50 other articles in peer-reviewed journals)

 
It's obvious that they are not going to leave these groups, which is 
fine.  For those of us who have seen strange things, it's easier to 
simply think of them as "sick", and continue our search for the truth 
by 
ignoring them.  They are the same type of people that held on to the 
belief that the world was flat, or that the sun orbited the earth.  
Their distorted reality will, of course, crumble one day.  When it 
does, 
the debunkers will be the ones jumping out of windows or shooting them 
selves.  I look forward to that day. :-)

- Ben

I just hope I don't get landed on or caught in the cross-fire