Davis, Garvin, Sir Hillary and othes vs. Russian Gov't!

 
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Russian Government & Current UFO Activity An Interview with Valery
Uvarov By Graham Birdsall � by Graham W. Birdsall � 2003 
Quest Publications International Limited www.ufomag.co.uk. 
Extracted from Nexus Magazine - June-July 2003 9-20-3

The following extracts were transcribed from a filmed interview with
Valery Uvarov, of Russia's National Security Academy, conducted by
Graham W. Birdsall, Editor of the UK-based UFO Magazine. The interview
took place at the 12th International UFO Congress Convention and Film
Festival, held February 2-8, 2003, in Laughlin, Nevada, USA.

Graham Birdsall (GB): What is your official title?

Valery Uvarov (VU): I am head of the Department of UFO Research, Science
and Technical, National Security Academy, based in St Petersburg,
Russia. 
GB: This, then, is an official Russian government agency? 
� 
VU: Absolutely. I am answerable to two people above me. They are 
answerable to the next person above them, who is our President [Putin].
� 
GB: What exactly is your remit? 
� 
VU: Our research efforts are divided into two parts. Firstly, we are
constantly analysing data coming in from all over the world. We then
extract what we consider to be the most interesting information through
our database-which is yellow, which is red. This, then, is released to
various departments throughout Russia.  The other aspect of our research
stemmed from asking the question: do UFOs exist or not? For sure, we
know they exist, but what is behind their activity, their interest? This
is the most important issue for us, and what we mostly focus our
investigations on. 
� 
GB: There is active co-operation between NASA and Russian aerospace 
officials at a technical, scientific and maybe even military level. Do
you liaise or have ties with organisations similar to your own overseas?

VU: I can tell you, truthfully, that just a couple of days before I flew
to the United States I had a meeting with my ... let's say, my bosses.
And they said they are very interested in co-operating with other
organisations ... let's say, our friends in the West. So, I can tell you
that this particular mission is at the starting point. I am charged with
finding the right people. When this is done, and the next stage is
activated, we can make some concrete steps. 
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Re: UFO Mail lists   
Group: alt.alien.visitors
Date: Sat, Sep 20, 2003, 12:25pm (EDT+4)
From: mdavis19@ix.netcom.com (Michael�Davis)

Sally Ann wrote: 
I don't know if there are aliens or UFOS. I haven't see any so I can't
criticize anyone but am curious,is there any proof of UFOS or aliens?

Davis: No. There is not the slightest trace of hard evidence that any
aliens have ever visited Earth. There is not the slightest trace of hard
evidence that any UFO ever seen was in reality an alien spacecraft.
There are however a lot of myths, urban legends, baseless stories and
true-believing nuts who don't need or want any evidence.

Davis: UFOism is nothing more than a fantasy based mythology and a
pseudo-religious belief system.

Sally: How can I or anyone be sure or positve or believe?

Davis: You don't have to believe in anything. Just stick with what is
proven. Leave the goofy, baseless, beliefs to the goofy believer types. 
-- 
The Evil Michael Davis(tm)