Subject: Re: Public Schools Science Education: What Biology teachers are forced to teach
From: "jabriol" <jabriol@Neogenesis.net>
Date: 26/09/2003, 23:27
Newsgroups: alt.talk.creationism,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.atheism,alt.paranet.ufo,misc.education.science,alt.biology,sci.bio.paleontology

"David Jensen" <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in message
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In alt.talk.creationism, Jabriol@excite.com (JaBrIoL) wrote in
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David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote in message
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In alt.talk.creationism, "jabriol" <jabriol@Neogenesis.net> wrote in
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Centuries ago, this would not have appeared to be a problem. Most
people
then thought that flies could develop from decaying meat and that a
pile of
old rags could spontaneously produce mice. But, more than a hundred
years
ago, the French chemist Louis Pasteur clearly demonstrated that life
can
come only from preexisting life.

Not exactly. He demonstrated that complex life did not arise on its
own.

what do you call "simple life"?

self-sustaining biochemical reactions that are not within a cell wall.

So how do evolutionists explain the source of life? According to the
most
popular theory, a chance combination of chemicals and energy sparked a
spontaneous generation of life millions of years ago.

Not exactly.

I guess abiogenesis has been duplicated in a lab, please tell us the
details.

Has nothing to do with what I said.

What about the principle that Pasteur proved?

It has nothing to do with abiogenesis of the first life.

iit does, either life started at one point, or life has always been.
which is it?

Life started at some point.

The World Book Encyclopedia explains:
"Pasteur showed that life cannot arise spontaneously under the
chemical and
physical conditions present on the earth today. Billions of years ago,
however, the chemical and physical conditions on the earth were far
different"

Not a particularly rigorous source or claim, but vaguely correct.

how vague?

Pasteur didn't even show that life could not start. What he showed was
that maggots did not come directly from rotting flesh.

Oh.. you did not address extraterrestial dropoff.

It doesn't matter.

So, your saying, the exterrestial factor is not an alternative to man's
origin?

No, though there is absolutely no evidence to support it.

so people who belives in alien life forms, like Carl Sagan and others are
nuts...