Re: UFO mail lists

Echelon Administration wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:59:32 GMT, "UFO Researcher"
<notgiver@here.never> wrote:

Jump to:


I've just started a new group at smartgroups.com called UFOs, Aliens and the
Paranormal and can be found at http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/uaatp or
simply send an email to UAATP-subscribe@smartgroups.com to join.

Trolls, Debunkers and their ilk will be banned without warning!


So what you're really saying is that you


...are just as bad as the debunkers, who need to have a secret group for
planning/strategy at all times.

http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=%22aar_skeptics%22

Remember that, John?

will summarily ban anyone you
disagree with, or can refute others balderdash with logic, reason and
factual information.

How happy for you--a place where everyone can be just as delusional as
they want, with no fear of reality intruding.

Banning them is easier than sending out all the k0ok complaints when they decide
to say "mean things" about you that are true, John:

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   Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:19:11 -0600
   From: John Lewis <10breakalpha@excite.com>
   To: usenet@imap.pitt.edu
   Subject: Abuse

   Please forgive the apparent length of this post; it is sent with the
   identifying tracing information intact, as advised by my attorney.

   Robert Wolfe claims to be on IT staff at University of Pittsburgh as
   the ' Bioinformatics Supervisor' , allegedly for the Genetics
   Laboratory.

   While in your employ he has posted the following from
   genetics.pitt.edu in an attempt, it appears, to cast aspersion/smear
   both myself and my business in the mind of the general public by
   posting his erroneous information and conclusion(s) to the Usenet
   discussion group misc.consumer, far outside of the area where he and I
   have debated, the Usenet alt.alien.* newsgroups.

   To send this material to the misc.consumer group is a deliberate, not
   accidental act on the part of Mr. Wolfe--and he did so from your
   University, on your equipment.

   I request that you take action to stop Mr. Wolfe from continuing in
   his aspersion/smear campaign, and discipline him for the actions he
   has taken so far. In addition, I would ask for a formal apology from
   University of Pittsburgh and Mr. Wolfe for attempting to damage my
   business and professional as well as personal reputation. Said apology
   should be widely disseminated through the newsgroups mentioned in the
   attached tracing information, with especial emphasis on the
   misc.consumer discussion group.

   Thank you for your consideration. Full text of the abusive material
   follows. I look forward to your reply.

   John Lewis
   J Lewis Private Jeweler

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   From: Robert Wolfe <rob@www.genetics.pitt.edu>
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   John Lewis wrote:

   > On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:01:11 GMT, Robert Wolfe
   > <rob@www.genetics.pitt.edu> wrote:
   >
   > >Hi John... were you too busy to read over my suggestions which might
help you
   to realize the obvious context in my original post that you want to
pretend
   > >doesn't exist?
   >
   > You aren't in any position to suggest anything to anyone.
   >

   Are *you*?

   >
   > >Hey did you give out any consumer reviews for the prostitutes in
 Orlando?
   >
   > Why? Looking for a chance to experience heterosexual sex for the first
   > time in your life?
   >

   LOL!  Sorry, Charlie.

   >
   > You'll probably want to contact the guy at penn.com for your
   > information. I live in Texas.

   Why does this jewler@penn.com guy know so much about Jewelry?

   Are you saying that this is a *different* John Lewis who is a Jewler?

   Here is a search for all of the posts by the user claiming to be
   jeweler@penn.com:

http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=a
uthor%3Ajeweler%40penn.com&btnG=Google+Search

   Look at those groups: alt.alien.research, alt.consumers.experiences,
   alt.alien.visitors, alt.consumers, alt.paranet.ufo

   Let's talk about DIAMONDS, John...  Do you know anybody who knows
   about Diamonds?  http://www.jlpj.com?  That is *your* site, right?  I
   see you are based in
   Irving, Texas.

http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=a
uthor%3Ajeweler%40penn.com+diamonds

   Re: How many here sell Diamonds?
   I sell Diamonds. ... Though, if I really think about it, I'm in the
   "feel good about my
   life" business--and Diamonds just happen to fit that bill for my
   clientele.
   alt.diamonds - Dec 5, 1998 by john lewis - View Thread (5 articles)

   Re: Good diamond prices- Must drive to NYC?
   ... Get up out of that chair, stop staring at your monitor, and go out
   there now
   and look at some diamonds in 3d. You won't regret it. Now seize the
   day.
   alt.diamonds - Nov 16, 1998 by john lewis - View Thread (6 articles)

   Re: What happened to this forum?
   ... questions. Now I come back to visit and all I see is SPAM SPAM
   SPAM.
   Isn't that what alt.diamonds.marketplace was made for? So all ...
   alt.diamonds - Jun 30, 1999 by john lewis - View Thread (8 articles)

   Re: Why Buy from Upscale Jewelers?
   I'd like to know why buyers go to Tiffany's or other upscale retailers
   for diamonds.
   Consumers, it seems, can obtain much better prices almost anywhere
   else. ...
   alt.diamonds - Feb 4, 1999 by john lewis - View Thread (2 articles)

   Re: Info Needed
   ... is a new product which is much better than cubic Zirconia that
   even a ceritified
   expert couldn't tell the difference between it and the real diamonds
   and it ...
   alt.diamonds.marketplace - Aug 27, 1998 by john lewis - View Thread (4
   articles)

   Re: Question relating to GIA certified diamond
   This basically makes it a legal contract that not only are you buying
   a diamond, but a specified diamond, that matches that criteria. ...
   alt.diamonds.marketplace - Dec 31, 1998 by john lewis - View Thread (4
   articles)

   Re: Looking for some experienced diamond help
   Hi No one buy's Jewelry at Kay Jewelers, Gosh, I'll have to run right
   out
   and tell all my customers that they didn't buy from me all those
   years. ...
   alt.diamonds.marketplace - Oct 2, 1998 by john lewis - View Thread (6
   articles)

   Re: RUBY BOULES
   Hello, I am looking to procure a flame-fussion ruby boule.... any
   suggestions
   for possible sources? Yes. Try Chatham Created Gems and Inamori. ...
   alt.diamonds - Aug 27, 1998 by john lewis - View Thread (2 articles)

   Re: Request for help
   I just purchased a .53 point trillion cut stone with GIA papers via
   an internet transaction. Is there any way to track the origin ...
   alt.diamonds - Apr 20, 1998 by john lewis - View Thread (2 articles)

   Now let's talk about Irving, Texas...  Still with us, John-o?

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=373b6cb4.1320891937%40news.penn.com&out
put=gplain

   From: jeweler@penn.com (john lewis)
   Subject: Re: Southwestern Bell
   Date: 1999/05/16
   Message-ID: <373b6cb4.1320891937@news.penn.com>#1/1
   References: <7hfc76$qps$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
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   On Thu, 13 May 1999 20:20:57 GMT, Amy <enig99@my-dejanews.com> wrote:

   >@#$%@#&!!, I really want to switch phone companies, but SWBell is the
   >ONLY one serving this area!
   >And did you know that it is cheaper for me to call London, England than
   >to call Dallas, TX? (i live 30 miles from Dallas).
   >Ack, gotta stop now.. I'm getting more steamed by the minute..

   Move to Irving, where I grew up. and experience the true wonder that
   is GTE....(BEG).

   Hmmm.... He grew up in Irving, TX!  That's one helluva stack of
   co-winky-dinks, Pal.  Need I bring out the post to dfw.singles
   announcing your return to the
   dfw area?

   ...and you claim that Greer is a "Bullshit Artist"!!

   ...projection noted, John.  Projection noted.

   --
   Robert M. Wolfe�, Bioinformatics Supervisor/"""OFFICIAL"" Truth
   Terrorist� "Terrorist" of AAV/AAR, 4-life!"�
   rob@www.genetics.pitt.edu  Skepticult� Member #462-337-417
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=gpla
   in
   "The experience of the energy was something that I couldn't explain
   away
   no matter how hard I tried.  I tried to think of some sort of trickery
   that could have been used.  I even examined my chair afterwards to see
   if it was wired!  I never actually touched another person, the "ball"
   was
   passed to me by my daughter, the chair wasn't rigged in any way, so
   I wasn't covertly touched with anything that could have given me a
   slight electrical charge.  And the energy didn't dissipate as one
   would
   expect with an electrical charge.  As I said I wasn't predisposed to
   believe in such things, so I don't think the power of suggestion ma

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   Thank you for your prompt response. I look forward to hearing from you
soon.

   John Lewis

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   Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:40:31 -0500 (EST)
   From: John <10breakalpha@excite.com>
   Subject: RE: Your complaint to pitt.edu about abusive newsgroup messages
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   I have not had a reply concerning any action taken regarding my abuse
complaint
   referenced below, and would like to hear from you.

   Please advise on how you are/have handled this matter.

   John Lewis

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