Subject: Re: UFO Release 1 - Update - Theophilus TLP, Triangular UFO's
From: MaleTom
Date: 23/10/2003, 07:35
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,alt.ufo.reports,alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo

The above Triangular UFO reports and
the TLP proof are part of the verification
initiative we promised you. 

Cripes, why don't you just land a flying saucer with a giant robot on
the White House lawn in Washington DC, and get it over with?  Haven't
you people ever seen "The Day the Earth Stood Still?"  You could even
have a parade of little green men and tap dancing bug eyed monsters.
Just come out with it and shut up!
                        Marty

A good question Marty, although it is one that has already been
answered many times. I guess once more won't hurt, for all the Marty's
out there.

1.)There is nothing that current earth society has to offer the
Collective. Marty, pick the most primitive, violent, back water group
of people on the planet, would you like to move in with them?

Oh, really? Then why are they bothering with all this "contact"
rigamarole? Since they don't want to play anthropologist among the
"primitive natives" and study us, they should just go away and leave
us alone. It's a big universe, and there are plenty of other places
they could explore. 

2.) There are aproximately 200 companies that account for nearly 75%
of the worlds cashflow. If they became obsolete in 6 months after the
Collective landed and built more advanced factories, processes, would
that be a good thing?

Companies go "obsolete" all the time, we adapt, nothing new there. But
what kinds of things would they produce? Would they hire workers?
Would they need raw materials and supplies? Would they just give
things away or do they sell them? 

Either they would have to fit their business in with the current
economic system, or give things away. Either way, we would adapt. 

3.)When delegations from all the worlds religions pettition to have
meetings with the Collective in order to bring them the "truth" and
the Collective instead provides full color news archive footage of all
their origins and true nature, would that be a good thing?

Not likely. Religions already claim to have the "truth", and wouldn't
need confirmation from "aliens". And if the "collective" produced
"full color news archive footage" that portrayed a religion to be
false, the religious would not believe it, and the "collective" would
be accused of being in league with the Evil One. 

4.) Would the collapse of the stock market and every other system
based on money exchange be a good thing?

How would the arrival of "ET" cause a collapse of our value token
system (AKA "money")?  There are only 2 possibilities: 
1) The "collective" plans to churn out huge quantities of counterfeit
cash, (which would make them the biggest crooks ever) or 
2) The "collective" plans to give away all the goods we would want, in
which case, it wouldn't really matter what happened to money. 

5.) If the Collective gave the earths current populations the means to
extend their life spans to say 900-1000 years, I mean everyone at the
same time, would that be a good idea? What would the population growth
rate do? Would you feed, clothe and shelter them Marty?

Would this be an additional 900 years of good health, or 900 years of
lingering senility? That would determine whether or not it would be a
good idea. 

Extending the lifespan has a surprisingly modest effect on population
growth. It would take 25 years before we would have a substantial
population of centenarians. The real key to avoiding overpopulation is
using effective birth control, so unless this "extended lifespan"
comes with enhanced fertility and an overpowering sex drive, we could
adapt. 

Look people, I may not always say things you want to hear but I
promise that I will never lie to you. 

You come here with this wild fictional sounding story, pretending that
you are a "chosen contact", presenting no evidence other than wild
hearsay. Sorry, but I suspect you have already lied. 

The simple truth is that the earth at its current state of evolution
is not a very nice place. Many in the Collective view earths 
population as very backwards and violent. 
There is simply nothing you can offer them and certainly no
place here they would wish to live. Do you really think they 
want to come down here and have to "pay" for things, or be 
caught in a terrorist attack or have religious nuts try to correct 
their misunderstandings and ignorence for them? 

If there is nothing here that they want, why don't they just go away
and leave us alone?  It's a big universe, and there are plenty of
other places they could go. 

The earth has a long way to go Marty and it will be a long time before
they are ready to be part of the Collective as a whole. As I stated
before the Collective has selected five earth governments for first
contact. These governments will be allowed to colonize this solar
system. The people who go into space to do this will be the contact
point for the Collective. It is these earth peoples who will act as
the go betweens for the Collective in relationships with earth side
governments and companies.

Be "Allowed" to colonize? Isn't that patronizing. 

Marty I am sure you and others like you are decent honest people, a
little close minded, a little arrogant, a little self righteous with
regards to your vast knowledge of the universe and its populations but
other then that a nice enough guy. 

Close minded, arrogant, self righteous? Sounds like your "collective".
We should fit right in. 

The Collective has flown ships
directly over washinton and many other capitols. They have slowly, I
repeat slowly, tried to introduce themselves to you so as not to cause
a total collpse of your society. The fact that you and others don't
seem to grasp just how destructive uncontrolled contact would be
simply proves their methods correct.

Oh, that hoary old "We'd panic" argument. Look, we/ve seen those 
"first contact" sci-fi movies and we've dealt with much bigger
problems than the arrival of some snooty self-righteous "feel good"
new-age "collective" aliens. 

These releases are for those who know that there is something higher,
something better waiting out there for them. They are the meek, the
more socially and spiritually evolved of your race and it is they who
will inherit this solar system and all that lay beyond. It is they who
will recieve all the benefits the Collective has to offer and then
pass it down to earths people in a slow and deliberate process. 

Oh, such incredible awesome humility! 

The earth will simply have to live on in poverty, hunger and ignorance
until they stop thinking and acting as they do. They will have to stop
killing each other. Stop enslaving each other through corrupt monetary
systems. Stop thinking that they have all the answers when they don't
even know the right questions to ask.

Ok. We've survived a few hundred thousand years. I think we can
survive a few hundred thousand more without benefit of the
"collective". 

Marty, I tell you what I will give you an example of just how
destructive uncontrolled contact with the Collective would be. We'll
take religion as an example,....hmmmm, lets take the Christians.

Jesus was part of the Messiah Projects. His mother was articially
inseminated and the soul of a very prominent and well known leader of
the Collective placed into the body to act as a teacher for all earths
people. Because of his faith in the ultimate good nature of all earths
people he volunteered to do this, to suffer this for you all. You know
the story of Jesus and what he tried to do. Here's a little story you
don't know.

Any scriptural evidence of that tall tale? Thought not. More  lies. 

Jesus was supported by the Priestesses of the Jewish faith. At the
time there was a great conflict for controll within the jewish faith
between those who taught the Way of the goddess and those who taught
the male god's way. Mary Magdalene was a high priestess of the goddess
worshippers. She and Jesus were married and not soon after invited to
the home of a prominant Roman merchant. Jesus was derided for partying
with the Romans, tax collectors and priestesses who the male god
followers called whores. The wife of this merchant was a very
prominant priestess of Venus and was very good friends with Jesus and
Mary. Jesus was quite a party animal in those days though less now
that he was married. He even said in the bible that people called him
a drunkard, its there Marty, look it up. He got quite drunk that
night, roman wine always got him that way and left him with such a
hangover.

So they were all sitting down and talking and their host's husband
jokingly asked Jesus, "So tell me my frind, oh great and wise one,
what is the meaning f this existance and how may we win at battlem
this great game of life and impress the Gods"? I think his name was
Marticus,... just kidding LOL

Jesus stood and swayed a little, he was getting pretty drunk and said
in a slurring voice, "Its very simple my friends, your purpose is to
be born into a world surrounded by assholes and at the end of your
life if you haven't become an asshole too, you win"!

At which point he fell down and laid his head in Mary's lap, quite
drunk and feeling like he had to through up. Mary was very embarrassed
and she gave him hell about it for months afterwards, it was really
awful, but I digress.
The Roman merchant actually liked Jesus and would remark to others
that it was the simplest and truest answer to that question he had
ever heard.

<sarcasm> Great example of a "messiah leader". Doesn't even know
enough to avoid getting soused and acting like a real jerk. </sarcasm>

My point is this Marty, go tell this little story to a christian whose
life's meaning is based on their faith of Jesus. See what their
reaction is. They will laugh and tell you that you are crazy. Now
imagine what would happen to their faith if you gave the Pope and
other great Christian leaders the archival footage of that night and
asked them to show their followers it.

Well, we haven't seen any such "archival footage", but they'd say it
was fake. (like your whole tall tale)

Marty, all the Collective can do for people you like you (the vast
majority) is say dump your religions and simply follow the Ten
Commandments that they gave to you, all the rest is simply fluff and
mind games of your own invention. Stop killing each other, taking
advantage of each other, raping, stealing, hating, brutalizing each
other. You know, don't treat each other like assholes.

There here to teach us religion? That's the last thing we need - more
pompous preachers. 

That's the Collectives message to all the Marty's out there. No more
parables about fig trees or three fishes or mustard seeds. No promise
of light and flowers. Just plain old fashioned human to human truth in
a way that even the Marty's of this world can understand. The message
is plain and simple, don't be assholes and someday after many, many
more reincarnations you might just win the game we call life. When you
have done this the Collective will land a ship right in your front
yard Marty and that is a personal promise from me to you!!!

What about the majority of people who already do that? Are they going
to have to wait til the "assholes" reform before they see these
"ET's"? 

Hey, I've been a nice guy. I don't lie, steal, hate, brutalize, rape,
and certainly don't kill. 
Is this "collective" going to land in my back yard?  
But you promised ! 

I don't want anyone to come away from this email with a sense that you
are looked down upon by all the Collective. 

Oh no. We's just poor primitive brutal savages, but you don't look
down your high and mighty noses at us. 

Many in the Collective and fortunately for you all the ones who 
count, believe that mankinds heart is basically good. They 
have great faith in your ability to overcome these hardships and
to one day become a great and benevolent society. 

In that case, they should either help or stop interfering. 

They believe in you, yes even you Marty my friend. I belive
in you too and maybe, just maybe you should all start believing in
each other. Try to stop killing each other and being cruel to each
other. Thats not to hard a concept to grasp is it? Does anyone of you
not understand the simpel truth of this?
Treat people as you would want to be treated, what more can be said?

Grasped that concept as a child. That's one reason I don't need your
NewAge ET saucer worship religion. 

Peace be with you all,
R.D.Butler

MT