In article <a05hrv8in0l7eqehmk9jifaqq497jtk3qk@4ax.com>, David Patrick says...

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:30:51 GMT, Sir Artio <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:

In article <9bdervga4bvello4sg506q56d1gdbk983r@4ax.com>, David Patrick says...

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:19:21 GMT, Sir Artio <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:

That's right Patty, DOWN WITH DEBUNKERS and
UP WITH HONEST RESEARCHERS!!!

Hush, Flaffer.

Patty, these are SERIOUS newsgroups, not some
gossip-columns that you and your pals think it is.
FYI - Your name is still on "The List!"  

So what? Some nutjob in the states has a list of everyone who laughed
at him. Put up or shut up, lets see this anti-debunker war begin.

Operation: Infinite Destroy Debunkers has had many successes,
some of the most incredulous debunkers have been eliminated
from these newsgroups.  But as the General would certainly
suggest, much more needs to be done!!  You can help the
General, and the war against Truth-Terrorists by leaving these
newsgroups and turning over a list of all debunkers, and their
supporters, friends, sympathizers and affiliates.

If you cooperate fully, Patty, I just may be able to
make sure you have a nice cot at the
Re-Education Kamps!!!  But I can't promise anything,
of course.

WOMAN'S DAYLIGHT ENCOUNTER WITH UNUSUAL BEING
Says Creature Had Six-Fingered Hands, Ran "Like Gazelle"

According to a story first reported in a new magazine called "Unknown," a
woman named Katherine (K.T.) Francovich had a sensational daylight encounter
with a being that seems in many ways similar to a so-called "grey" alien, but
with some notable differences. The encounter allegedly took place in Dade
County, Florida (near Miami) in May of 1992.

CNI News is aware of many reports of alien encounters, describing many
bizarre beings. As a rule, we would not present such a report by a single
witness, lacking other evidence. But the witness in this case seems to be
especially credible and well-qualified, and was interviewed by respected
researcher, author and filmmaker Linda Moulton Howe, who characterizes this
story as "one of the top two or three" eyewitness encounter reports she has
ever recorded. We present this unusual case in the public interest, with no
guarantee of its authenticity.

Linda Howe contacted K.T. Francovich and played the resulting interview on
Art Bell's nationally syndicated "Dreamland" radio program on Sunday night,
January 25, 1998. Bell then interviewed Francovich live on the air on Tuesday
night, January 27. Both interviews can be heard via AudioNet on the web.
[http://ww2.audionet.com/artbell/archive.html#jan98, Sunday 1/25 (beginning)
and Tuesday 1/27 (second hour)]

The following text summarizes Linda Howe's broadcast interview.

Howe began her radio segment by saying that K.T. Francovich has had a long
career as a wildlife photographer and filmmaker and is therefore a skilled
observer and comfortable in the wild. She comes from a family of filmmakers.
Her great uncle Mike Francovich Sr. was once president of Columbia Pictures,
and two of her cousins were involved in producing such acclaimed films as
"Exodus" and "Lawrence of Arabia." Judging from the tone of the interview,
K.T. Francovich is down-to-earth, highly intelligent and physically fit.

The incident began as Francovich was walking two large "attack-trained" dogs
on leashes through a deserted grove of dying, leafless lime trees in southern
Florida.

She heard a loud noise, as if someone were cutting down a tree with an ax.
Turning toward the noise, she says, she saw a humanoid being standing by a
tree. The being had "grayish pink" skin, non-porous and "almost plastic"
looking. She estimates the being stood four feet nine inches tall. It was
wearing snug-fitting, metallic-looking clothing that clearly showed the
shaped of its body.

"The most alarming thing that caught my attention immediately was the head,"
Francovich said. The upper part of the skull was disproportionately wide, the
eyes were huge, black and almond-shaped, with no whites or pupils visible. It
had "two tiny nostrils where we would think of a nose being, and the lips
were very small and not well-defined at all, just a tiny slit in the face.
Its ears seemed to be dropped down a little bit and were very much smaller
than ours, pressed flat against the head," Francovich said.

"The body was as startling as the head, because the upper torso did not match
the lower torso. The arms were very long, without what we call muscle tone,
very skinny, extending into very long hands. The hands were six-fingered,
definitely six digits on each hand. I know, because I counted them more than
once. The thing that fascinated me about the hands -- because I've worked
quite a bit with primates -- is that the thumb [of this creature] was in the
exact location of where the human thumb is. So there was a thumb and FIVE
fingers, instead of four.

"The neck was again without muscle tone, thin-looking. The shoulders were not
well-defined. It had a very slender frame and [what] appeared to be a little
pot-belly, just a little round."

"But then, once you came down to the thighs, an extraordinary thing happened.
The thighs were actually OVER-developed. Coming down to the calves, they
looked exactly like the legs of a well-trained athlete. I mean bulging
muscles.

"The feet were small, I would say too small for the rest of the body,
particularly those well-developed legs. On the feet [were] what looked like a
cloth boot, made out of the same metallic material that it was wearing for
clothes.

"I want to tell people that I was shocked, shell-shocked," Francovich told
Howe. "I've worked with quite a few dangerous animals in my lifetime, worked
up close to them, but I've never seen a being like this. It wasn't that I was
afraid of it attacking me, because I had no time to think of that. What
shocked me was that I couldn't identify it. And one thing I can stress to you
is that it was just as shocked as I was. We both were at a dead stand-off,
staring at each other."

Linda Howe then asked Francovich if she felt any unusual energy, controlling
force or telepathic communication coming from the being. Howe noted that the
"Unknown" magazine article said Francovich's dogs, normally aggressive, just
sat down quietly in the presence of the being.

Francovich said that, regarding any kind of controlling force, "I don't like
to guess. But I will most definitely say something out of the normal was
taking place. These were two huge, aggressive, attack-trained dogs. And both
of them, the moment they looked at this being, did lay down on the ground and
put their heads down, just as if they were sound asleep. I can't tell you
whether this being was controlling them mentally, but I can tell you this was
very bizarre behavior.

"This stare-down lasted quite a while, because I had enough time to go over
this body several times, and a million things were going through my head,"
Francovich said. But then, something even stranger happened. The being began
to run.

"The moment I saw it run, I understood its legs. I had never seen anything
like this in my life and I'll never forget it as long as I live. Do you know
what a Thompson Gazelle is?" she asked Howe.

"Right, they kind of spring, like they're on pogo sticks or something," Howe
replied.

"Exactly. When they run, when they come down and hit the ground, it's exacly
like you said, like pogo sticks -- leap, leap, leap, with very little effort.
This is exactly how this being ran. It would actually spring, I would say,
easily three feet up every time its feet touched the ground. He looked like a
gazelle in motion.

"Well, I took off running with him. We ran neck to neck down this grove. The
dogs were running beside me, although at no point did they ever start
barking. We ran quite a distance. It's a darn good thing there weren't any
telephone poles in my path, because I never took my eyes off him. I couldn't.
I would have smacked right into a telephone pole and knocked myself out,
that's how concentrated I was. We ran, I would say, a distance of several
city blocks. It was the most fascinating thing I've ever seen in my life."

Francovich said that they finally came to a kind of tunnel that was formed
from densely growing vines on the dead trees. "He darted right into it and
disappeared. The moment he entered that tunnel -- I was still in motion,
running with him -- I hit a wall of stench like I have never hit in my life.
It was a combination of sulphuric acid and formaldehyde. It was so strong
that it actually burned the lining of my nose. It was like running into a
concrete wall, that strong.

"I knew instantly that there were others in that tunnel, a lot of them. I
knew that they were waiting for me to follow him. And I actually exclaimed
out loud, 'OOOPS!' I turned on my heels and literally dragged those dogs at a
full run in the opposite direction. I would say we ran a good mile and a
half."

Linda Howe asked Francovich if she went back to that spot later. She said
that she and the dogs went back the next day and had a different kind of
encounter.

"I had my dogs, was running them, and low and behold, here comes this black
car, right at me in the grove. Government plates. It pulled up next to me.
Two fellows sitting in the front seats, both had on black suits. The one
sitting nearest to me on the passenger side said, 'Have you ever seen
anything strange in this grove?' And I wasn't about to tell him or anybody
else what I'd seen.'"

Francovich said that the man gave her a business card that had a raised gold
emblem of the White House on it, but no other information that would connect
them to a particular agency. After a brief conversation, they drove away.
Francovich was left with the impression that these men already knew about the
beings and were mainly trying to determine if she knew anything.

At first she kept the details of her encounter to herself, but then told her
husband, David Cobb, who recently wrote the article that appeared in
"Unknown" magazine. More details of Francovich's story can be heard in Art
Bell's archived AudioNet programs listed above.