Re: 2004 Update: Usenet UFO spOOk-KooK-Trolls List//How to Debunk Anything!

Please add me to your list.

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:38:38 GMT, Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers
�.S.�. <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote:

} 2004 Update: Usenet UFO spOOk-KooK-Trolls List//How to Debunk Anything!
} 
} This list is a public service to those who want to constructively and
} collectively use these newsgroups.  Do not under any circumstance let these
} charlatans fool you: The alien presence is the highest classified secret that
} our Pentagon carefully guards.  
} 
} America's military and related aerospace industries have known about the
} Extraterrestrial presence since at least the 1947 Roswell dual UFO crashes.
} Certain industries have been privy to back-engineered alien technology for over
} 50 years.  All of this classified information is heavily compartmentalized, with
} no one group having the entire picture. In addition, civilian-research UFO
} groups have been heavily infiltrated throughout the decades and UFO researchers
} and witnesses have been threatened, intimidated and killed.  This still goes on
} to this very day.  UFO abductees and investigators from Dr. Karla Turner to Jim
} Keith met some very unexpected deaths.
} 
} The body of objective scientific evidence to prove the alien presence is
} overwhelmingly in the positive and much extraordinary information has been made
} available. Correspondingly, there would be no easy way to inform the public of
} the totality of the Extraterrestrial existence, and no one government or
} military group to present it.  The situation is extremely complex, with some of
} the data quite disturbing.   The sudden announcement of the true reality of ETs
} would have a profound effect on Earth's cultural, financial, religious, and
} social institutions.  In fact, it may be even more sinister than that; there
} appears to be undeniable proof of a working relation between members of certain
} Intelligence Agencies; the Pentagon and various off-world races that is totally
} separate from the hundreds or even thousands of contactee cases from around the
} Globe. 
} 
} One needs to factor in the perpetual hybridization program of ETs with humans,
} the tens of thousands of animal mutilations on an ongoing worldwide basis and
} the still unexplained phenomenon of crop impressions, some with very complex
} geometric formulas that cannot be duplicated by mankind.  There also has been
} state-of-the-art scientific research into investigating alien implants implanted
} in humans.  The purpose of these alien implants appears to be to monitor and
} control human behavior.  Likewise, the physics and materials research of the
} alien craft, some of which have been back-engineered by covert aerospace
} industries for over 54 years, have been incorporated in American weapons and
} space programs. 
} 
} The total purpose of the alien agenda must still remain a huge mystery to the
} top intelligence communities (NSA, NRO, NSC) that monitor and control the
} information flow.  This makes the entire extraterrestrial reality extremely
} complicated to comprehend and explain to the society at large. These are all
} good reasons for the continued metered-release of the information, instead of
} the just one big announcement.  This program seems to be working since the
} majority of Americans have now heard of ETs, abductions, Area 51, and other
} aspects of the alien presence, and no one seems to be panicking, yet!
} 
} The spOOks-Kooks-Trolls (SKT) methods are easy to decipher, they use them
} repeatedly:
} 
} * They never address the good evidence in regards to the ET reality.  They will
} never in any meaningful way discuss the good scientific work done on animal
} mutilations; crop circles and pictographs, alien abductions; trace cases-where
} the craft lands and leaves; recovered down craft; back engineering of alien
} craft; surgically removed alien implants, outstanding videos from NASA, etc.
} 
} * The SKT's will not argue the evidence, they will attack the person presenting
} the evidence. This is their top technique, make the poster the
} center-of-attention, and then follow up each other's post with more nonsense.
} The Usenet Debunkers are like a pack of hungry wolfs, the first one makes a
} snide remark about the poster and the others follow suit.  Flame wars galore. DO
} NOT LET THIS TECHNIQUE FOOL YOU, there is real good information on these
} newsgroups!  
} 
} Other distinguishing features of the spOOks-KooKs-Trolls:
} 
} *Make comments unrelated to do with the subject matter. 
} *Have closed minds and can't be bothered by facts.
} *Refuse to do a stitch of research on this topic.
} *Never get within 50 feet of a witness or researcher.
} *Attack any book on the topic (except those by the CIA propriety press:
} Prometheus).
} *Supply gobs and gobs of mis- and dis-information.
} *Claim there isn't a credible photo when there has been hundreds if not
} thousands of them, as well as thousands of hours of videos.  
} *Straw man attack.-they will fashion a dummy position held by a UFO researcher.
} Then proceed to rip it apart. Many will discredit the researcher on this false
} premise.
} *Invoke authority.
} *Dismiss the charges as "old news."
} *Set the criteria for "proof" incredibly high so that it could never be reached.
} *Always ignore the first-hand testimony of witnesses to the unexpected credible
} sightings.
} *Practice scientific research by proclamation not investigation.
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} Now the spOOksKooKs-Trolls list:-(Avoid these posters like the plague):
} 
} spOOks
} 
} Lou Echelon��� Spin-etti- Agent-Provocateur. 
} O-Borg - The official "State" UFO debunker.  
} Borsch-Belt- Usenet-debunker; most likely a spOOk.
} Team Adams- "We must cover-up all aspects of the alien existence."
} 
} KooKs/Trolls:
} 
} Capt. Shitley- Dumb kid.
} Twit- 6-time loser. 
} Sage/Sludge/Hertz -Desperate, bitter old man, mean-spirited.
} Asf-Wipe-  Cantankerous
} Chen De-Stabilizers- Repulsive, mysterious.
} Bryson- Despicable.
} EEL- Oily.
} Anut - Idiotic.
} M. Davis- Spaz.
} THYROID- Clueless.
} Ron Quack - Inarticulate.
} Pete Chumpest- Potty-Mouth.
} Hutch - Despondent.
} Lewis-Copy-Cat, big-time troll
} Ugly Bob- Deranged, potty-mouth
} Patrick- Elusive, refuses to address voluminous amount of evidence
} Whorelow-Adds nothing to conversation.
} Hugh/Art�s Twin-Desperately seeking attention!
} Carl Wilson-Know nothing and proud of it!
} Idiot Jeff George Black � Superficial
} Hughe/Sucke/Mr.XXX- Queer cross-dresser agenda
} Wider Sham � Brain-damaged.
} John Griffin- Uninformed 
} Sir Gilligan � Desperately seeking attention!
} Tim Goo-gooian- Uninteresting
} Wally Anglesea- Pointless
} HVDAC- Head injury.
} MIA: Cadwell, Adams, Munro, Imrie, David McGurin, Leo Sgouros, Kofff many
} others.
} 
} This list will be constantly updated for the group's benefit.  
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} Leland palmer <easbun@proaxis.com> responded:
} 
} Damn fine points, Charles Stuart.  This twitch fellow seems less
} interested in science than in putting forth his own views, which are
} hopelessly past-directed and uninterested in progress.  
} 
} I have noticed that twitch functions as a disinformation spreader.  If
} he cannot win an argument by logic and data, he will resort to snipping
} and distortion of his opponents' articles.  He gets the postings to go
} off-topic, then exits for a while - as if sitting back and watching the
} chaos he created.  Meanwhile, the subject at hand gets buried under
} flame wars.  Twitch re-enters the debate occasionally to fan the
} flames.  I really wonder if responding to him isn't causative of more
} trouble rather than of real solutions or transmission of information. 
} True, today,  I did criticize his goofy attempt to smear the UFO
} phenomenon by ad hominem arguments directed at individual ufologists -
} one certain mark of a demagogue.  But that was more an exercise in plain
} speaking than any attempt to sway the fanatical twitch.
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} Re: SKEPTIC-sp00k-debunkers/(Update) Meet your Newsgroup sp00ks and kooks
} From: soniknrg@aol.com (Sonik NRG)
} 
} Ha! Ha! Ha! Holy Guacamole! That's rich! I've got tears in my eyes from
} laughing so hard! I don't know who these people are that you name in your list
} as I've never heard mention of them outside of this newsgroup, but that list
} was funny as hell! I have been noticing though as I read through the threads
} that an awful lot of them seem to have no social lives whatsoever except for
} writing their little diatribes on this newsgroup on almost a daily basis. 
} Oh well, I guess it keeps them off the streets. :)
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} HV (hvac@workmail.com):
} EL....Please Stop Posting 
} 
} Hi   E.L.  !
} Hey don't take this the wrong way but, could you please stop posting? Your
} posts are very boring with little in the way of information and absolutely
} zero entertainment value.
} Thanks.
}